The Scottish independence referendum polling thread

[danny la rouge]

He's not done any polls.

Thought he had.

 

[butchersapron]

I'm surprised he hasn't really given his poll junkie nature. Maybe he thought there was a political risk if he was seen to be taking an interest.

 

[danny la rouge]

I'm surprised he hasn't really given his poll junkie nature. Maybe he thought there was a political risk if he was seen to be taking an interest.

Just had a search, and you're right - he hasn't. Ah, well. Just a crap joke, then.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Huh, Ed Milliband asking the English to fly the Saltaire, "To show the Scots what they'd be missing if the vote yes" http://www.theguardian.com/politics...e-saltire-across-the-uk-scotland-independence

And then this headline:
Cameron, Clegg and Miliband to make emergency visit to Scotland

They announced this on facebook apparently

 

[DotCommunist]

Huh, Ed Milliband asking the English to fly the Saltaire, "To show the Scots what they'd be missing if the vote yes" http://www.theguardian.com/politics...e-saltire-across-the-uk-scotland-independence

And then this headline:
Cameron, Clegg and Miliband to make emergency visit to Scotland

They announced this on facebook apparently

'saltire' every day is a schoolday. As someone pointed out on the other thread 'OK mr milliband, I'll just go rifle through my giant flag collection then?'

 

[DotCommunist]

next to news of royal babby saving the union, this is getting farcical

 

[Belushi]

next to news of royal babby saving the union, this is getting farcical

I'd been working under the assumption that like me the leaders didn't really care either way. Turns out they really are that bloody complacent they thought it was in the bag.

Loving the panic though

 

[J Ed]

Huh, Ed Milliband asking the English to fly the Saltaire, "To show the Scots what they'd be missing if the vote yes" http://www.theguardian.com/politics...e-saltire-across-the-uk-scotland-independence

And then this headline:
Cameron, Clegg and Miliband to make emergency visit to Scotland

They announced this on facebook apparently

Considering how unpopular they all are, surely this will give the Yes campaign a boost?

 

[8ball]

Loving the panic though

Not even on the 'yes' side of things myself, really, but I agree it's hilarious.

 

[8ball]

Considering how unpopular they all are, surely this will give the Yes campaign a boost?

But but but... Miliband is going!!

 

[butchersapron]

The NO vote is solid. It's DKs on the move. If they were the sort of people who could be enthused/scared to vote no by a personal appearance/plea from these three they would have been by now and so not be DKs. But they have no one and nothing with which to appeal to Dks. And what they think they have and what they are now relying on is precisely what is driving the DKs to YES.

 

[Belushi]

They've tried threats, now it's promising to change. What's next? Begging, Tears?

 

[Favelado]

I'd like Scotland to vote Yes, the Queen to die the day after, and then Cameron to resign the day after that.

 

[cesare]

I'd been working under the assumption that like me the leaders didn't really care either way. Turns out they really are that bloody complacent they thought it was in the bag.

Loving the panic though

Likewise

 

[8ball]

They've tried threats, now it's promising to change. What's next? Begging, Tears?

There'll be a half-assed suicide attempt before the week is out at this rate...

 

[DotCommunist]

ma says she read Cameron says he will step down as leader in the event of a yes vote. Bet he'll hang on till the GE though, the swine

 

[DotCommunist]

There'll be a half-assed suicide attempt before the week is out at this rate...

Should scotland be expecting 3am rambling text messages

 

[kebabking]

i am prepared to drive to Glasgow, get drunk and stand in the street in the dark hours and sing 'all by myself..'.

i shall save the union.

 

[8ball]

i am prepared to drive to Glasgow, get drunk and stand in the street in the dark hours and sing 'all by myself..'.

i shall save the union.

I'll bring my keyboard...

 

[kebabking]

I'll bring my keyboard...

do you know where i could get a smoke machine and some disco lights - and a stick-on curly mullet?

 

[Idris2002]

next to news of royal babby saving the union, this is getting farcical

 

[Dillinger4]

They've tried threats, now it's promising to change. What's next? Begging, Tears?

depression then acceptance

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Milliband has shown how totally useless he is with this campaign. He's simply teamed up with the tories, where he could, with a little wit and imagination, have pushed a distinctive Labour argument for 'no' - distancing himself, for instance, from Osborne's pathetic bullying tactics.

But no. No distinctive message at all. In fact, his message seems pretty clear - 'we are the tories too'.

 

[butchersapron]

Brown - the Scottish vote went up under him whilst collapsing elsewhere - has a better chance of dragging DKs to no out of fear. He's been doing some potentially effective NHS stuff based stuff today. But all that's going to be pissed on when people see the three stooges and think about what they will do to the NHS.

 

[butchersapron]

Milliband has shown how totally useless he is with this campaign. He's simply teamed up with the tories, where he could, with a little wit and imagination, have pushed a distinctive Labour argument for 'no' - distancing himself, for instance, from Osborne's pathetic bullying tactics.

But no. No distinctive message at all. In fact, his message seems pretty clear - 'we are the tories too'.

It'd have to be a fair bit more than a little bit of wit and imagination. It'd have to be a series of lies. And when you do that you're setting your campaign up as a simple narrative of lies unfolding.They didn't offer anything better out of tactical choice but because they have nothing better to offer.

 

[danny la rouge]

Brown - the Scottish vote went up under him whilst collapsing elsewhere - has a better chance of dragging DKs to no out of fear. He's been doing some potentially effective NHS stuff based stuff today. But all that's going to be pissed on when people see the three stooges and think about what they will do to the NHS.

Indeed. People know that Brown isn't in power - he's a backbench opposition MP, shortly to retire. He can't deliver anything.

The people who can deliver something, no matter how inconsequential, are these three wankers.

 

[iamwithnail]

Ironic metaphor time:
https://skynews.grabyo.com/g/v/P25wqfTO9M3
Downing street try to raise a Saltire to show support for the Union. It falls off the flagpole.

 

[J Ed]

Kissinger has come out for No

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...ce-is-neck-and-neck-with-nine-days-to-go-live

I have always been a strong advocate of the special relationship. Not so much because of the power of Britain but because I thought it was important for America and important for the structure of the world to have another country that independently designed its policy but, because of its own convictions and a maybe different tradition of foreign policy and a longer experience with geopolitics, worked on common conclusions.

I thought that that was important for us who would otherwise be stuck as an island between Eurasia and Europe.

That’s why I’ve been in favour of a nuclear capability for Britain because I wanted Britain to be recognised as a significant country in terms of global strategy.

So anything that makes it smaller, I cannot say I welcome … [but] I have no strong views about the specific technical issues on which much of the referendum debate is taking place.

 

[Idris2002]

Kissinger has come out for No

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...ce-is-neck-and-neck-with-nine-days-to-go-live

Ze bombing vill begin at midnight. Kiss your dykes and bridges goodbye, Schottland.

 

[J Ed]

Ironic metaphor time:
https://skynews.grabyo.com/g/v/P25wqfTO9M3
Downing street try to raise a Saltire to show support for the Union. It falls off the flagpole.

Everything Westminster has done since that first poll showing a lead for Yes has made me feel happier and happier I've put a bet on for Scotland going, thanks Liblabcon!