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Sasaferrato The claim that 3 % of the sample were fraudulent / dodgy is false, see the link above. Its not a statistics questions.
The claim comes from this lady. She is the chairwoman of arizona gop.
 
I wonder, what happens to conspiracy theorists and their theories if their conspiracy theories enter mainstream discourse and are deeply believed by significant numbers of people, rather than just a fringe. It doesn't seem to matter much if they're right or wrong after all. Do the next generation of conspiracy theorists have to develop ever more elaborate new conspiracy theories about the mainstream conspiracy theorists (who can no longer rely on their alterity) and have become in some weird way part of the political establishment? Strange times we're living in!
 
bimble said:
That cctv footage from Georgia shows nothing out of the ordinary at all. If I was going to do a Giant Crime I'd probably not do it whilst being filmed.
The source of the video is none other than Ron Watkins, the son of the person thought most likely to be the mysterious prophet Q, it went straight into the veins of the qanon community and then got taken up by the fringes of the broader right & is now Rudy's favourite video.
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Ron Watkins is also the so called *expert, who upon reading the Dominion voting machine manual outlined ways they could be compromised for fraudulent purposes.

Basically he said, well if you get admin rights on this you could do anything you wanted. Which is a banal truism of any electronic system. And why we have such things as I don't know, locks, passworrds, 2 factor authentication, security checks on persons employed to use certain systems...

* He's a web admin , not a penetration tester nor forensic data expert .
 
Sasaferrato said:
I did say 'if'. I didn't say, and don't say, that there is any merit in the claim.

A sample of 100 out of 28,000 proves nothing really.

No doubt one of our more stats orientated posters will correct me if necessary, but wouldn't you need a 50% sample?
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My understanding is that they didn't take a sampling, those are the figures for all votes in the state of Georgia. Which has 7.2 million registered voters. The figures in the tweet are thus not statistically significant.
 
Sasaferrato said:
Of interest to everyone, one would have thought.

If, and it's a big 'if', that report is correct, then that is a huge scale of fraudulent voting.
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Don't worry yourself. It's already been thrown out of court because it is risibly not a demonstration of voter fraud.

It showed a usual margin of error, the examples of which didn't all go in Biden's favour anyway and if scaled up, still wouldn't have made Trump the winner.

Couple of people posted regarding this a page back.
 
Marty1 said:
Irregularities of Georgia laid out:



And Rudy explains the alleged ‘smoking gun’ video evidence he describes as akin to a heist:



At the end of the video he urges Georgia’s legislators to do the patriotic thing (vote against the alleged corrupt Biden win) - which I doubt will happen as the fall out of that for them personally would be no doubt immense.
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What are you hoping to achieve here, Marty1 ?
 
SheilaNaGig said:
Of course he doesn’t.

He’s an opportunistic grifter with a grudge.

He’s a narcissistic con man who accidentally found himself in possession of a valuable asset.

He’s just playing out his game for as long as it will hold.

If you think he believes this bullshit, then he’s played you too.
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Not that it matters really but I suspect he's decided on some level, to believe it himself. TO keep an internal cogent narrative, if nothing else.
 
krtek a houby said:
What are you hoping to achieve here, Marty1 ?
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What he is achieving (fuck knows if he means it) is, think of all the Trump voters whose engagement in politics is at a level where they will register these big initial mountainous allegations and not pay enough attention to the detail that flattens every overhyped molehill. Not on urban, but within the US. Having an insight to what they are buying into whilst having to have limited interaction with their insanity is handy
 
Marty1 said:
Irregularities of Georgia laid out:



And Rudy explains the alleged ‘smoking gun’ video evidence he describes as akin to a heist:



At the end of the video he urges Georgia’s legislators to do the patriotic thing (vote against the alleged corrupt Biden win) - which I doubt will happen as the fall out of that for them personally would be no doubt immense.
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Please stop torturing those poor straws.
 
xenon said:
Not that it matters really but I suspect he's decided on some level, to believe it himself. TO keep an internal cogent narrative, if nothing else.
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I think so too. He has always done this, for instance claiming he won the popular vote in 2016.
www.bbc.com

Trump claims millions voted illegally in presidential poll

President-elect Donald Trump says he won the popular vote "if you deduct the millions of people who voted illegally".
www.bbc.com
 
Sasaferrato said:
Well, Trump certainly believes there is a conspiracy...

What strange times we are in.
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And, around 40 court cases have been thrown out, because no evidence has been provided. Recounts have be carried out, none of the results support his claims.

He's just fund raising, begging for money for his legal fund, but in the small print it says only 25% will be spent on legal action, so he has to keep it going, whilst basically pocketing 75% of donations.
 
bimble said:
i really think that to reduce this whole thing to a simple grift is a mistake. It's not that rational or that benign.
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It's also a mistake to think that it's just Trump's doing and that 'sensible' republicans will save the situation. The majority of republicans have been perfectly happy with Trump's leadership because he has represented their interests well and the majority of them are going along with this putsch because they don't think there's anything wrong with trying to seize power like this. The few who have spoken out against it are either those who were against him anyway or those who've had personal threats of violence because of it (eg. Raffensperger).

I think the upcoming rally in Georgia could be a flashpoint for all sorts of stuff, possibly including violence. But he does need a large scale protest movement if he is going to challenge Biden's presidency in any meaningful way.
 
bimble said:
i really think that to reduce this whole thing to a simple grift is a mistake. It's not that rational or that benign.
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yep - its primarily driven by his pathological narcissism. he simply cant accept being a loser. Its the same shit as when he claimed he had more people at his inauguration than obama - and media reports to the contrary were false news.
 
maomao said:
It's also a mistake to think that it's just Trump's doing and that 'sensible' republicans will save the situation. The majority of republicans have been perfectly happy with Trump's leadership because he has represented their interests well and the majority of them are going along with this putsch because they don't think there's anything wrong with trying to seize power like this. The few who have spoken out against it are either those who were against him anyway or those who've had personal threats of violence because of it (eg. Raffensperger).

I think the upcoming rally in Georgia could be a flashpoint for all sorts of stuff, possibly including violence. But he does need a large scale protest movement if he is going to challenge Biden's presidency in any meaningful way.
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How would any sized rally help him overturn the election? Even if every single one of his really ardent followers (who believe the fraud story or pretend they believe it) went on strike I still don’t think that would work.
 
Cloo said:
This whole thing is a blatant money-raising scam for soon-to-be-ex-President-Scammy-McScamster. I trust he'll find ways to milk this and syphon off the money for himself after 20 January; he'll be thinking 'LOL, I can ask these morons for money for any old shit and they'll give it to me!'
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It's like the "Nigerian prince" spam emails where they deliberately make it ridiculous to filter out the people who aren't stupid or gullible enough to give them money.

By February, Trump will probably be claiming to have found a huge cache of votes that could reverse the election and make him president again, but those sneaky Democrats have coated them in a kind of dye that is very expensive to remove.
 
reasons trump might not be conceding atm

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