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they keep bleating about how there's "a very strong case" and how the media are not reporting it - but they haven't presented anything tangible to anybody - at their various batshit press conferences or on social media. Its more "how can this have happened? - it must be a fix!" because they (and especially trump himself) simply refuse to accept they they lost.
So its " we were winning at first - and then biden's vote starts going up suddenly over night - sounds well fishy" and "you're telling me that biden got more votes than obama - come on! that's crazy!!" and - weirdly the legal system doesn't seem prepared to accept that as any sort of argument. Recounts and investigations that confirm that the vote was valid are not going to shift that - because (as ever) they are going on their entrenched beliefs constantly reinforced by their social media bubble. Only Trump unequivocally conceding will change it - and even then their will be diehards saying "he has to say that cos .. (insert clever tactical ploy argument here)" and of course Trump is never ever going to do that.
It will be a running sore for years - but if its the same headbangers who also believe in qanon, birther bollocks, biden is a communist etc etc im not sure it makes things any worse than they are already. On the plus side - it may well cripple the republicans politically for many years.
 
As for actual evidence of voter fraud, irregularities, ballot harvesting, illegalities etc - I don’t think a vast proportion of the media or electorate care what is/isn’t shown -I think America is so divided that what the world is witnessing is a political food fight.

Where this all ends is anyone’s guess.
My guess is biden in the whitehouse and trump constantly whining about how he was cheated and you will continue to alternatively annoy and exasperate posters with looney post that really say nothing.
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After thinking about this for a little bit waiting for the kettle to boil I'm glad you started this thread, you seem overly worried that the tangerine toddler could change the results but its ok we'll continue to reassure you by telling you the facts.
 
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Wow, Roger Stone's a sharp one - North Korean boats shipping ballots to Maine would indeed be proof of foreign involvement in the election, same as it would be proof of the existence of Santa Claus if they caught him stuffing ballots down a chimney, and it would be proof of extraterrestrial life if Klaatu landed outside Wisconsin election headquarters in a flying saucer packed with Biden ballots.
 
One thing I've learnt from being on here (there has been the odd thing in all those years) is that it's generally best not to assume political actors are doing what they're doing because they're idiots or incompetents. Usually it makes sense to look at it in terms of them acting to a different agenda or with different incentives to what you recognise. I think on the whole you get a much more useful view like that.

This lot do look a lot like they are just idiots right now though don't they.
 
Interesting thing; Stop The Steal was (as an organisation) set up by roger stone in .. 2016.
Old article :


I think the only bit of this whole fraud narrative that was genuinely unpredictable was how far the GOP would go along with it. Turns out the answer was a lot, not just stepping on rakes but shooting themselves in both feet.
 


Maine . Aa in Maine, the state on the North East coast of the US?

Coming from North Korea...?

So NK ships or subs would have to travel.... what, through the Panama Canal ? Were they invisible? Cloaking devices maybe? Or did they pay someone off so they could pass through unnoticed?

Oh, they went round the Cape! Oh that’s makes much more sense. Down through the Pacific, round Cape Horn and up through the Atlantic. That must have taken a while, and they must have been lucky to elude all notice, and not be swamped by the bad seas down there.

Oh, it wasn’t that, they flew the bundles to a remote location and got drug smugglers to compete the journey in drug subs?

Not that?

Aah, that’s far more likely and more simple, yes of course, they just hitched a ride on US Navy ships/subs because this conspiracy is so huge that they’re all in on it.



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Boats though. He’s saying boats. Not subs or ships. Boats.

He’s not really thought this one through has he.

Maybe some youngster in his life is trolling him, saying they’ve hacked into some system somewhere and discovered out that blah blah, and they’re feeding this shit to Uncle Roger for the lulz.
 
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Mind, there was that time the DPRK was knocking out top quality forged US dollars, so they are a bit naughty.
 
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Maine . Aa in Maine, the state on the North East coast of the US?

Coming from North Korea...?

So NK ships or subs would have to travel.... what, through the Panama Canal ? Were they invisible? Cloaking devices maybe? Or did they pay someone off so they could pass through unnoticed?

Oh, they went round the Cape! Oh that’s makes much more sense. Down through the Pacific, round Cape Horn and up through the Atlantic. That must have taken a while, and they must have been lucky to elude all notice, and not be swamped by the bad seas down there.

Oh, it wasn’t that, they flew the bundles to a remote location and got drug smugglers to compete the journey in drug subs?

Not that?

Aah, that’s far more likely and more simple, yes of course, they just hitched a ride on US Navy ships/subs because this conspiracy is so huge that they’re all in on it.



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Boats though. He’s saying boats. Not subs or ships. Boats.

He’s not really thought this one through has he.

Maybe some youngster in his life is trolling him, saying they’ve hacked into some system somewhere and discovered out that blah blah, and they’re feeding this shit to Uncle Roger for the lulz.
You can sail across the North pole these days can't you?
 
A judge is allowing a higher sample audit of ballots in Arizona after allowing a small micro audit of 100 random ballots showed 3% were fraudulent in favour of Biden who supposedly won with a lead of only 1% of the vote.


It will be interesting to see the results of this new higher sample audit, but if it reflects the first one - Biden loses Arizona and a precedent is set?
 
A judge is allowing a higher sample audit of ballots in Arizona after allowing a small micro audit of 100 random ballots showed 3% were fraudulent in favour of Biden who supposedly won with a lead of only 1% of the vote.


It will be interesting to see the results of this new higher sample audit, but if it reflects the first one - Biden loses Arizona and a precedent is set?
It will be only "interesting" to you, and I suspect not even that.
 
I watched trump's speech. I think he really believes the election was rigged, he isn't just a sore loser stirring up trouble before he exits stage right. However I am not sure that makes a difference to the near future.
 
A judge is allowing a higher sample audit of ballots in Arizona after allowing a small micro audit of 100 random ballots showed 3% were fraudulent in favour of Biden who supposedly won with a lead of only 1% of the vote.


It will be interesting to see the results of this new higher sample audit, but if it reflects the first one - Biden loses Arizona and a precedent is set?
 
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