existentialist
Tired and unemotional
Especially as, going on current form, she probably has a mate with a Cessna and a pair of binoculars who could have done the job for twice the price.
The ongoing stupidity of Home Secretary Priti Patel
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Israeli Memories.
Farage would do it, oh no sorry he crashed his plane
Chz
Stark Raving Sane
If someone drowns, she runs a high risk of the officers in charge simply refusing their orders. Which would be a damned sight more embarrassing than a few refugees landing on the shores. The Navy isn't going to shoot or ram anyone - they'd refuse that before anyone got hurt. So what's the point of involving them at all?
8ball
Decolonise colons!
I kind of hope the Navy is aware of tobyjug's posts, just in case the opportunity should arise.
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
Good luck with that.
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
7un
Because unlike you, someone who spent perhaps 2 minutes composing those thoughts and committing them to writing, Priti Patel cannot think further than the end of her nose. I'd have said "cheekbones", but when she's got that supercilious sneer on, they probably protrude further than the end of her nose.
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
Oh, I think they'll refuse the order, but not on the grounds of morality. Over time, a lot of sailors have owed their lives to the willingness of other sailors to set aside differences and come to their aid - it's a pretty embedded part of the culture, regardless of laws or morality. I don't think that a typical RN officer would even countenance an action that would be blatantly and brutally inimical to that culture, and far less be seen to do so.
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
Like they helped those lads on the Belgrano.
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
I guess it's slightly different for subs...
kebabking
Not a Girly Swot, but I like them....
I, for one, would hope that MOD never makes a cabinet minister look like a complete moron purely to ensure that said cabinet minister never got the opportunity to preside over MOD....
The RN is no more about to ram migrant boats than the Army is going to machine gun the queues outside the immigration tribunal - they will provide (astonishingly expensive) surveillance assets, and platforms for the BF to pick people put of the water, but that's it. If she thought otherwise, she's the fuckwit everyone had long suspected....
The RN is no more about to ram migrant boats than the Army is going to machine gun the queues outside the immigration tribunal - they will provide (astonishingly expensive) surveillance assets, and platforms for the BF to pick people put of the water, but that's it. If she thought otherwise, she's the fuckwit everyone had long suspected....
Currently, they can save their resources.
tony.c
Well-Known Member
Priti Patel tells Tory MPs that migrants 'flock to Britain' because France is racist.
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
Well, she's doing her level best to even out that little discontinuity...Priti Patel tells Tory MPs that migrants 'flock to Britain' because France is racist.
isvicthere?
a.k.a. floppybollocks
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
Priti Patel tells Tory MPs that migrants 'flock to Britain' because France is racist.
Even a stopped clock.
It is absolutely correct that many people who try to get to the UK have been mistreated elsewhere in Europe. Same reason people in France dread getting their fingerprints taken and getting Schengened back to Greece or Italy, where conditions are even worse.
Anecdotally it seems that the Belgian state is among the most brutal in Europe. But it's a race to the bottom throughout the EU. The stuff Patel has made (probably empty) threats of doing in the channel has been happening on a huge scale in the mediterranean for years already, and international law be buggered.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Indeed; my mate Mo from the Parisian banlieues has always explained his move to London on the basis of the push factors of French racism.
Streathamite
ideological dogmatist
I think it's also that - historically - the First Law Of The Sea is that the preservation of human life is paramount, except in times of war. I may be wrong in this, but I thin k this was also ratified as such by UN Convention
Streathamite
ideological dogmatist
As things stand atm, they won't need to actually try
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
France is a racist country though and refugees are treated terribly by the police, they do so cos the orders come down from on high. As a country that ravaged Africa it has a large number of people from those former colonies but they are mostly pushed out of sight in to ghettos in the suburbs of Paris and Marseille and so on.
In the UK we have a Muslim mayor of London and a Hindu chancellor of the exchequer (feted perhaps to become PM one day) and no one bats an eyelid at that.
Not to say the number of racist people in France is more or less than the Uk, I just don’t know, but the state set up certainly is.
In the UK we have a Muslim mayor of London and a Hindu chancellor of the exchequer (feted perhaps to become PM one day) and no one bats an eyelid at that.
Not to say the number of racist people in France is more or less than the Uk, I just don’t know, but the state set up certainly is.
Streathamite
ideological dogmatist
Incredibly, she is actually right.Priti Patel tells Tory MPs that migrants 'flock to Britain' because France is racist.
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
Except that the implicit conclusion she draws is "...therefore, WE must be more racist, too"
Very short-sighted thinking, but then that's no surprise.
Streathamite
ideological dogmatist
oh absolutely. That was a classic dogwhistle to the anti-immigrant Right
She was hauled over the coals on R4 this morning, yet still wriggled out of answering for the lack of clarity in the government maxims.
Streathamite
ideological dogmatist
She also gave a bollocks answer on this new 'rule of 6', showing that she didn't grasp the basic point of law
'Rule of six': Priti Patel's neighbours unimpressed by her shopping lawbreakers
Home secretary said she would inform the police if her neighbours flouted Covid rules
danski
"vibey"
Her neighbours thinking they are above the law. I’m shocked.'Rule of six': Priti Patel's neighbours unimpressed by her shopping lawbreakers
Home secretary said she would inform the police if her neighbours flouted Covid ruleswww.google.co.uk
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