The ongoing stupidity of Home Secretary Priti Patel

[existentialist]

I disagree with about everything PP stands and says for but i dont think she is stupid. Scary rather than stupid.

Stupid is as stupid does. If she's not actually stupid, then she is at the very least doing a bloody good impression of a stupid person.

 

[not-bono-ever]

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[not-bono-ever]

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[editor]

The Queen of fucking stupid strikes again

The chief inspector of constabulary, Sir Tom Winsor, addressing the conference after Patel, attacked the Conservatives’ record of cuts, which he said had blighted the police, courts and prisons and had left justice “extinguished in some cases”.

Prisons were in chaos, the prosecution service plagued by “disgraceful” delays and courts hit by decay and left empty, he said. “So why did the criminal justice system come to this state. Funding cuts are the basic answer.”

Dave Thompson, the West Midlands chief constable, said local services had been decimated, leaving police to pick up the pieces, especially in mental health. He said police had come “close to emptying the bins” instead of preventing or detecting crime as services were cut.

Martin Hewitt, the chair of the National Police Chiefs’ Council, said the courts and prosecution service were under such strain that adding more police officers may fail to deliver big cuts in crime.

“We can all see it’s [the criminal justice system] not coping now. It’s creaking and in places it’s breaking. More importantly, it’s letting down victims and leaving criminals to walk free,” he said. “Without serious change, more policing won’t mean more justice. And more policing without more justice is a recipe for corroding legitimacy – both in us as the police and in all parts of the system.”

Extra officers must lead to less crime, Priti Patel tells police chiefs

Home secretary says forces will have no excuses but police fear return of targets

www.theguardian.com

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Rutnam resigns and is to sue the govt for constructive dismissal.
Which ties in well with the assurances that Patel gets on well with him...

 

[existentialist]

Rutnam resigns and is to sue the govt for constructive dismissal.
Which ties in well with the assurances that Patel gets on well with him...

I really, really hope he doesn't settle.

 

[Supine]

I really, really hope he doesn't settle.

He just said he didn't accept a financial settlement offered

 

[two sheds]

It's generally built into the system that people will settle though - as I understand it if you're awarded less by the court than was offered in the settlement then you have to pay their costs.

 

[brogdale]

From Rutnam's Speccie piece (partly paywalled):

 

[not-bono-ever]

Planned or not, the evisceration of the senior civil service class looks to be an almost trumpian play.

 

[Treacle Toes]

Planned or not, the evisceration of the senior civil service class looks to be an almost trumpian play.

Trumpian, via Cummings...it's what we expected isn't it?

 

[brogdale]

Planned or not, the evisceration of the senior civil service class looks to be an almost trumpian play.

There's enemies of the people in that there swamp.

 

[Marty1]

MI5 rejects claims that officials withhold intelligence from Priti Patel

Informed security source says Sunday Times report quoting unnamed officials is untrue

www.theguardian.com

Yes I know what a parking meters are.

Sir Philip Rutnam has now resigned.

Priti Patel faces calls to explain 'bitter feud' with outgoing Home Office boss — Sky News

Home Secretary Priti Patel is coming under pressure to explain explosive allegations levelled against her by Home Office boss Sir Philip Rutnam who quit on Saturday.

apple.news

 

[brogdale]

Sir Philip Rutnam has now resigned.

Home Office boss quits over 'campaign against him' — BBC News

Priti Patel's top civil servant says he intends to sue the government for constructive dismissal.

apple.news

Try reading threads before you post, eh?

 

[JimW]

Better yet, try not posting.

 

[not-bono-ever]

There are no sacred cows any more , no gentlemen’s agreements or accepted conventions that cannot be used or disposed of as needed.

 

[maomao]

Hope he gets her to a tribunal. And then someone bombs the tribunal. Best result I can come up with.

 

[klang]

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i'm glad you made your point twice. i missed it the first time around.

 

[existentialist]

He just said he didn't accept a financial settlement offered

I've just read his statement - that's not someone who's planning on going quietly. Of course, the scumbags in government will no doubt characterise this as politically motivated spoiling tactics. Fuck 'em.

 

[existentialist]

Sir Philip Rutnam has now resigned.

Priti Patel faces calls to explain 'bitter feud' with outgoing Home Office boss — Sky News

Home Secretary Priti Patel is coming under pressure to explain explosive allegations levelled against her by Home Office boss Sir Philip Rutnam who quit on Saturday.

apple.news

We know.

 

[existentialist]

There are no sacred cows any more , no gentlemen’s agreements or accepted conventions that cannot be used or disposed of as needed.

And of course the politicians who are always so keen to dispense with what they blithely dismiss as "red tape" are going to find out just how much significance and complexity those gentlemen's agreements and accepted conventions brought - codifying that into some kind of formula will be nightmarishly difficult, if not impossible.

But then that's not what Cummings/Johnson/Patel want - what they want is the freedom to do what they fucking well please, and hang the consequences. This is quite a scary place to find ourselves, and I certainly never thought I'd find myself hankering for the Sir Humphrey approach...

 

[agricola]

The Queen of fucking stupid strikes again

Extra officers must lead to less crime, Priti Patel tells police chiefs

Home secretary says forces will have no excuses but police fear return of targets

www.theguardian.com

TBH there are few people with less right to make that point than Winsor, whose report inspired a lot of what they did and whose position would have allowed him warn about that before the damage was too severe. Instead he was more interested in cosplay.

 

[Marty1]

I've just read his statement - that's not someone who's planning on going quietly.

Me too, seems a bit flimsy tho. Sounds like he doesn’t like PP and has heard some bad things about her and has decided to take a strop emptying the contents of his pencil case onto the office floor before slamming the door behind him.

 

[brogdale]

Me too, seems a bit flimsy tho. Sounds like he doesn’t like PP and has heard some bad things about her and has decided to take a strop emptying the contents of his pencil case onto the office floor before slamming the door behind him.

Mods, please. (II)

 

[discokermit]

who gives a shit about senior civil servants?

 

[two sheds]

Well apart from sacking the civil servants and replacing them by Johnson/Cummings yes-men is a decided slide into totalitarianism. At least civil servants would provide some sort of check on their more lunatic actions.

 

[Fedayn]

who gives a shit about senior civil servants?

Especially one happy to preside over WIndrush, 'Go home' vans and the hostile atmosphere for immigrants. Fuck them both though I hope she gets dragged into the fighting sack with him.

 

[Proper Tidy]

who gives a shit about senior civil servants?

I am well in favour of MPs at war with whitehall bureaucrats, class on class, fuck 'em up

 

[two sheds]

Especially one happy to preside over WIndrush, 'Go home' vans and the hostile atmosphere for immigrants. Fuck them both though I hope she gets dragged into the fighting sack with him.

Ah. Ignore my last post then

 

[andysays]

who gives a shit about senior civil servants?

I'm not sure any of those posting here are expressing concerns about Sir Philip's personal wellbeing