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The 'Naked Rambler' jailed for 22 months, following arrest within 60 seconds of his release!

But isn't it a bit ridiculous the state humanity has reached, that we are ashamed or even alarmed by our own and other people's natural bodies?

Most of us aren't ashamed or alarmed though - Objection for the most part stems from the aesthetic.

And imagine how dour and po faced the world would be if nakedness wasn't a thing to be pointed and sniggered at.
 
I don't have a great body image, I can't see myself revealing my white translucent body in even as much as speedos or shorts in public (could be a new thread in that) let alone walking Britain nude like this guy!

But it interests me, many nudists are not exactly totally body beautiful themselves, there are plenty old and wrinkled bodies in nudist camps (I saw somewhere anyhow!) but despite not being exactly Charles Atlas they are confident enough to mingle in the buff with just anyone that might pass by.

What have they got that mr & mrs hide behind the twitching net curtains don't have?

Mr & Mrs behind the net curtains have a bit of self awareness and a sense of the ridiculous that's completely lacking in the joyless and just generally thick-as-shit nudists.
 
Mr & Mrs behind the net curtains have a bit of self awareness and a sense of the ridiculous that's completely lacking in the joyless and just generally thick-as-shit nudists.

Don't you think they, "Mr & Mrs behind the net curtains", might occasionally fantasise about stripping off into their underwear and dancing wildly in the street outside their homes during a pelting warm summer skin soaking rainstorm? :)
 
Coz by the very act of switching on the telly you're choosing to view whatever's on there - You can have a squizz through TV Quick and, if there's anything on there that you might not be down with, you can avoid that channel. No such avoidance mechanism exists when old in-the-buff-Gough's out making his rounds. Surely you can see the difference?
That's not 'normal' behaviour though - screening the Radio Times to ensure we don't stumble across (pre-watershed) content that may have an upsetting effect on us due to personal experience. So in reality you're no more "choosing to view" it than you're choosing to see Gough naked by choosing to go outside rather than remain indoors.
And in response to your edit - Dibble's on my side - Now there's novel :cool:
Lol. :D

The argument they're putting to excuse one but not the other is spurious to say the least though isn't it?
 
Don't you think they, "Mr & Mrs behind the net curtains", might occasionally fantasise about stripping off into their underwear and dancing wildly in the street outside their homes during a pelting warm summer skin soaking rainstorm? :)

Quite possibly, but fantasies are best kept in the realm of fantasy. Coz, one way or another, making it a reality will likely cause problems or, at the very least, disappoint. And probably result in catching your death of cold.

A fact which the (entirely fictitious) Mr & Mrs behind the nets understand instinctively.
 
That's not 'normal' behaviour though - screening the Radio Times to ensure we don't stumble across (pre-watershed) content that may have an upsetting effect on us due to personal experience. So in reality you're no more "choosing to view" it than you're choosing to see Gough naked by choosing to go outside rather than remain indoors.

Lol. :D

The argument they're putting to excuse one but not the other is spurious to say the least though isn't it?

Undoubtedly. And I'm not down with that naked bike ride either. But you're right, it shouldn't be one rule for one and one rule for another.

But I would argue that looking in a TV guide to plan your nights viewing is fairly normal. And yeah, I do choose the telly I watch.
 
Quite possibly, but fantasies are best kept in the realm of fantasy. Coz, one way or another, making it a reality will likely cause problems or, at the very least, disappoint. And probably result in catching your death of cold.<snip>

You probably have a point there but once in a while reality lives up to the anticipated fantasy and is well worth the sand in your crack, catching a cold etc.
 
You probably have a point there but once in a while reality lives up to the anticipated fantasy and is well worth the sand in your crack, catching a cold etc.

I'll take your word for that - I'm still sitting on a doughnut-cushion after that time in the bogs on the trans euro express though.
 
existentialist said:
Diagnosis on the internet. Don't do it, folks - it's usually crap, and it always looks bad.

This is probably crap, and possibly looks bad - but I admit I've wondered about PTSD in Gough's case...?

Note: "wondered"
 
This is probably crap, and possibly looks bad - but I admit I've wondered about PTSD in Gough's case...?

Note: "wondered"
I have wondered if there may be something wrong, but what he is doing is just outside my limited experience of the variety of mental health issues.
 
This is probably crap, and possibly looks bad - but I admit I've wondered about PTSD in Gough's case...?

Note: "wondered"

There's clearly sumat wrong with him - Dunno about PTSD though, could be, from his forces days, could be somethin else. But the fact that he'd rather keep going in an out of prison and walk up and down the country with nowt on instead of being there for his Mrs and his kids ffs tells you loud and clear all's not right with the guy.
 
Humans have been wearing clothes for 170,000 years... I reckon in alot of situations/circumstances our 'natural state of being' has evolved to be clothed more often than not :hmm:
Evolution doesn't work that fast. Our societal norms may have "evolved", but we haven't. Though most of us would probably be dead if we dispensed with clothing altogether (see what I did there? :D)
 
There's clearly sumat wrong with him - Dunno about PTSD though, could be, from his forces days, could be somethin else. But the fact that he'd rather keep going in an out of prison and walk up and down the country with nowt on instead of being there for his Mrs and his kids ffs tells you loud and clear all's not right with the guy.
To be honest that's my problem with him - his choices. I'd rather it was something really important that you went into pacificist-Bronson mode over, that you abandoned your life over, that you kept on doing to the detriment of your health. His choice of course and as I've said, as I'm sure everyone agrees, the police/court reaction is the real problem. However he's the one who thinks it's so important that it over-rides the interests of those who might not want to see his winky. For whatever reason, be it mental health or bloody mindedness, it's a good(ish) point made badly or, more accurately, made for too long in an obsessive way. Best reaction is to leave him alone, but he could make that a bit easier.
 
Evolution doesn't work that fast. Our societal norms may have "evolved", but we haven't. Though most of us would probably be dead if we dispensed with clothing altogether (see what I did there? :D)

Actually, it can do... but in this case, yes- it is probably more a case of phenotypic adaptation rather than evolution. You could argue that the evolution of Hominidae, culminating in Homo sapiens, our gradual loss of body hair, use of tools (in this case clothes) has led us to our current 'natural state' being one of a clothed form.. Which was what I was getting at.

Is there any evidence for that?

Yes.

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0960982204009856?np=y

:)
 
Does the origin of body lice correlate with clothing?

Do naked people not get lice?

Have you read that paper? :rolleyes:

What they are saying is that body lice, which is a distinctly different sub species to head lice.. Evolved with the advent of clothing in one form or another

the origin of body lice reflects the origin of clothing; it is possible that clothing existed for some time before lice exploited this new ecological niche, in which case the origin of clothing could be much more ancient than the origin of body lice...

clothing may have allowed early modern humans to colonize more extreme latitudes than their archaic predecessors, and hence might have been a factor in the successful spread of modern humans out of Africa.

Thats just one paper but there is a loads of evidence highlighting that humans have been wearing clothing for between 100-200,000 years

:p





Hold on a minute... If body lice only evolved because we started wearing clothes thousands of years ago, maybe we should all go back to being naked! :hmm:

Shiiiiiit :confused:
 
In Florida years ago with my then Spanish girlfriend, she accosted a policeman about going topless on the beach which she explained to him she did all the time in Spain. The policeman reacted as if she had been snorting cocaine in front of him or something .. he was simply outraged!
 
Most people's arseholes aren't on display unless they go to some trouble to do so. I think you may need a brief lesson in anatomy - that's probably his belly button you're looking at :D

he was on telly once climbing up a lamp post, that took some trouble and there was anus and balls everywhere . It was a sphincter/scrotum holocaust

i refuse to look, any sign of him on any media and i put my hands over my eyes. Hes then rendered incapable of assaulting me visually with either his genitals or anus. The immodest git .
 
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