Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
I asked you for examples when you sought to bolster the argument being made by Enviro.
So what am I lying about?
The 'Naked Rambler' jailed for 22 months, following arrest within 60 seconds of his release!
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I asked you for examples when you sought to bolster the argument being made by Enviro.
So what am I lying about?
cesare
shady's dreams ♥
I gave you examples. Then you changed your mind to full frontal.
Combustible
Well-Known Member
I didn't insert full frontal because it suits me but because that is the comparable level of nudity to that which Gough displays. The reason why 'Unashamed sexual nudity advertising' is generally considered a lesser evil for most people is that it does not feature full frontal nudity whilst this man has been walking around fully naked. Whether or not there are ads with half naked/partially concealed individuals is irrelevant when full frontal nudity is clearly the societal taboo which the issue in this case. And as far as I can see you didn't give any examples of adverts with comparable levels of nudity.
cesare
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I gave examples of mainstream brands that are well known for their use of sexual-based nudity that sells their products and that also project the idealistic body. It's relevant because of the disconnect between what is perceived as taboo plus the importance we comparatively attach to the impact of advertising compared to lone examples of eccentricity where the adverse impact - if any - can be easily managed. Societal taboo in this case is clearly a matter of opinion as our society allows naked public mass bike rides.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
Might come up in the church quiz?
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
No.
Enviro equated nudity in advertising with a bloke that's wandering around the country constantly exposed.
I challenged that, and you gave examples didn't cut the mustard, so I asked you draw an equivalence. Which you haven't.
cesare
shady's dreams ♥
They cut the mustard for your original question. You then changed your question. So if you want to complain that I didn't answer your revised question - by all means do so. But don't fucking misrepresent what's a matter of record earlier in the thread.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
cesare
shady's dreams ♥
Mandy Rice-Davies.
Him being naked in public will cause varying levels of alarm / distress / offence / upset / trauma to various people for various reasons. Shit but true. Their right to be protected from that alarm etc definitely outweighs his right to be naked. Seems only fair to me.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
WTF are you on about?
cesare
shady's dreams ♥
lMFGTY
cesare
shady's dreams ♥
Well, a good compromise for that would be to insist that he stays in the countryside and away from inhabitation. Then the only thing he'd spoil would be Spymaster's aim.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
cesare
shady's dreams ♥
I doubt it.
cesare
shady's dreams ♥
Looking forward to stoned version of macho green ink, although I don't suppose you'll attain the entertaining levels of last night's apoplexy.
5t3IIa
Registered User
Well, he would say that, wouldn't he?
Coz he's a nob who's hiding from himself and whatever unresolved issues he's got.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
Corax
Luke 5:16
I'm not necessarily disagreeing, but what's your rational justification for that?
Holby City causes varying levels of alarm / distress / offence / upset / trauma to people that have had friends or relatives die or be seriously injured/ill in hospital. I personally found it really upsetting when I accidentally caught part of it around the time my wife had suffered a massive brain aneurysm. I don't think it should be banned though.
So I'm not convinced that causing offence etc is a justification on its own.
What differentiates Gough's nakedness from Holby City?
None of the above is rhetorical argument btw. In case you missed my previous, my opinion is very much up in the air on this.
cesare
shady's dreams ♥
I think it was CR's depiction of people that weren't particularly offended plus critical of the jail time; as far right fascists that had me rolling around in laughter.Which bits specifically?
No one's making you watch Holby City (thank fuck), but if you're just mooching about and happen to cross paths with Gough then, why aye, it's one in the eye. Whether you like it or not.
The guy's a clown who needs to sort his napper out, we've had 25 pages of sensible heads stating that it's his arrogance in forcing his nudity on others rather than his nudity per se that's the problem, but people still seem to want to make it into an argument about prudishness and hang ups about the human body. Which it patently isn't.
Corax
Luke 5:16
How is mooching about different to channel-surfing?
ETA: Your post sound a bit similar to the police's argument
weltweit
Well-Known Member
But isn't it a bit ridiculous the state humanity has reached, that we are ashamed or even alarmed by our own and other people's natural bodies?
Indeed it is. That's why I said 'shit but true'. In an ideal world things would be different, but that's a whole separate thread
Coz by the very act of switching on the telly you're choosing to view whatever's on there - You can have a squizz through TV Quick and, if there's anything on there that you might not be down with, you can avoid that channel. No such avoidance mechanism exists when old in-the-buff-Gough's out making his rounds. Surely you can see the difference?
And in response to your edit - Dibble's on my side - Now there's novel
weltweit
Well-Known Member
Indeed it is. That's why I said 'shit but true'. In an ideal world things would be different, but that's a whole separate thread
I don't have a great body image, I can't see myself revealing my white translucent body in even as much as speedos or shorts in public (could be a new thread in that) let alone walking Britain nude like this guy!
But it interests me, many nudists are not exactly totally body beautiful themselves, there are plenty old and wrinkled bodies in nudist camps (I saw somewhere anyhow!) but despite not being exactly Charles Atlas they are confident enough to mingle in the buff with just anyone that might pass by.
What have they got that mr & mrs hide behind the twitching net curtains don't have?
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