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The Leaders' Mass Debate

Who won it for you?


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I think I'm actually gonna have nightmares about his closing speech. So wooden, so patronising. I didn't hear a word the man said, I just prayed for it to end.

In his one minute "Vote for Me" pitch at the end Milliband came across as totally insincere. Like a really useless salesman that couldn't even muster up fake belief in the product that they are trying to flog.
 
Award for most delusional reading of the debate goes to:

A debate cunningly devised as a car crash by Team Cameron turned out to be usefully revealing of them all. And not to Cameron’s advantage. With a battery against him, stripped of advantage, he looked unsettled by this level playing field. Was using the tragedy of his son’s short life a good defence of the NHS or do people wince? Is attacking the Welsh on the NHS good politics? Faced with voices from Scotland and Wales, does he rule for them or just for his home counties?

Nick Clegg’s pose as honest broker was a grating reprise of last time – and it felt bust. Against bookies’ odds, Farage was the heavy loser, badly misjudging this forum as his poison on HIV and foreigners put him back in the BNP coffin: he may have lost respectable support.

Nicola Sturgeon was stellar, as ever: Leanne Wood good. Natalie Bennett was as amateurish as usual, but that won’t worry Greens. Again, the gainer was Ed Miliband – firm, calm, confident on pay, cuts, the NHS and the EU. What irony that Tory attacks on his weakness rebound to his advantage at every outing: any sign of authority comes as a bonus.

Guess who?
 
Not without a big political cost- and that's all they care about. Who of the big ones is going to say yes, we have no control over most immigration and that's a good thing?Other people can say it, politicians - with serious hope of office? No chance.
I think you're right about this. But it's interesting to me the change. Even just 20 years ago, saying that the free movement of people within Europe is a good thing was a respectable mainstream right-wing and left-wing position. It strikes me as a collective loss of nerve to draw back on that. They've been trapped by their own lies into a position that none of them wants to be in - labour, tory and libdem leaderships, that is. The alternative is impossible, as it is to admit to their own active participation in the neoliberalisation of Britain.
 
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So is it worth watching this this if/when it apears on iPlayer, or would I be better just reading the thread for a flavour?
 
Sturgeon- Very good assured performance
Wood, Bennett- Held up well but short on detail
Cameron, Miliband- so-so delivery that just kept their heads above water
Clegg- Barely holding it together
Farage- weapons grade cunt
 
I wonder if Farage's HIV comment actually went a bit far even for some committed UKIP supporters, let alone potential supporters.
 
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