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The Leaders' Mass Debate

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problem all other parties have with Farage is that stuff about immigration being uncontrollable inside the EU. It's true and they've got no argument for it.
Surely "immigration isn't actually the root of all problems" would be a good start? Wouldn't win over those who just hate non-Brits/whites, but a reasoned argument might convince those who have been conned by good rhetoric and lazy thinking.
 
Surely "immigration isn't actually the root of all problems" would be a good start? Wouldn't win over those who just hate non-Brits/whites, but a reasoned argument might convince those who have been conned by good rhetoric and lazy thinking.
White hate vote not that large - but what could there reasoned argument be against the claim that EU immigration is now all to do with what the EU decides? You can't say it's not true and you can't (politically) say this is a good thing.
 
Surely "immigration isn't actually the root of all problems" would be a good start?

Nicola Sturgeon (I think it was) said as much.

Another good point that doesn't get made: if you don't like it here because there's too many immigrants then there's two dozen other countries you can fuck off to right on your doorstep.
 
Surely "immigration isn't actually the root of all problems" would be a good start? Wouldn't win over those who just hate non-Brits/whites, but a reasoned argument might convince those who have been conned by good rhetoric and lazy thinking.
They'd have to admit it was true to move on to that argument though, wouldn't they?
 
what could there reasoned argument be against the claim that EU immigration is now all to do with what the EU decides? You can't say it's not true and you can't (politically) say this is a good thing.
I suppose that's the big issue.

Could it at least not be argued that it's not bad?
 
I suppose that's the big issue.

Could it at least not be argued that it's not bad?
Not without a big political cost- and that's all they care about. Who of the big ones is going to say yes, we have no control over most immigration and that's a good thing?Other people can say it, politicians - with serious hope of office? No chance.
 
Just got in after a 3 hour drive so didn't see any of it and the only analysis I've seen is the last couple of pages on here. Anyway, what comes out of that of any significance at all? Slight firming up of the snp against Labour in Scotland? No real success for farage in re-establishing himself as the anti-politician politician? Anything else?
 
Just got in after a 3 hour drive so didn't see any of it and the only analysis I've seen is the last couple of pages on here. Anyway, what comes out of that of any significance at all? Slight firming up of the snp against Labour in Scotland? No real success for farage in re-establishing himself as the anti-politician politician? Anything else?

They're all cunts, but Sturgeon's ok.
 
Just got in after a 3 hour drive so didn't see any of it and the only analysis I've seen is the last couple of pages on here. Anyway, what comes out of that of any significance at all? Slight firming up of the snp against Labour in Scotland? No real success for farage in re-establishing himself as the anti-politician politician? Anything else?
Only a few things - Sturgeon destroying the tories snp focused scaremongering. Farage def firmed up his vote. Nothing much else. Wood will, i think, have done well in ex-labour wales - but that was happening already. Nothing much else really - nothing major anyway. Miliband continued the good run of normalistion - yet again he and cameron are neck and neck as leaders etc back from the massive gap before people had a closer look at him.
 
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