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Militaristic, is what I was thinking in particular. No tolerance for perceived laziness or weakness.
 
When I first saw the Martians as they took the Canterbury crew into custody, I saw their uniforms and thought that at some point one of them was gonna say something along the lines of "vee haff vayz of makink you tok" and our heroes would end up getting the black rubber glove treatment.

So I was pleasantly surprised to see that they didn't do that. Instead Mr Aryan Superman-looking Dude self-administers this drug that looks like it gives him some kind of hyper-awareness while he conducts a verbal interrogation. Presumably that's why he insists that they keep their hands visible.
 
Just finished S2. That's the best telly sci-fi since the first three series of BSG. I've also been reading the books - S2 finished halfway through book 2, lots of good stuff to come next series although
I was expecting the last scene to be Miller surrounded by blue fireflies appearing in front of Holden

I really liked Bobbie Draper and also Avasalara's aide Cotyar, where have I seen that actor before?
 
PursuedByBears said:
Just finished S2. That's the best telly sci-fi since the first three series of BSG. I've also been reading the books - S2 finished halfway through book 2, lots of good stuff to come next series although
I was expecting the last scene to be Miller surrounded by blue fireflies appearing in front of Holden

I really liked Bobbie Draper and also Avasalara's aide Cotyar, where have I seen that actor before?
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Spatarcus: Blood and Sand. He plays injured gladiator Ashur who goes on to be a schemer and high ranking non-combat slave


also I have now had to download Leviathan Wakes because I was born a book wanker and will die a book wanker. Its too long to wait for the new series, might as well see the source for the first two...
 
Finished season 2 and enjoyed it though
did think that bit when the Caliban creature is ripping up the hold of the Rocinante was a bit daft in several ways, not least that apparently you can pull a load of pipes out of the guts of the ship with not much ill effect
 
J Ed said:
Anyone know what progress has been made on the TV adaptation of Red Mars?
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Fell apart in pre-production. Pilot script writer JM Straczynski declined the showrunner role, and the second guy they got in also left. "Creative DIfferences" all over. Officially it's on hold.
 
JimW said:
Finished season 2 and enjoyed it though
did think that bit when the Caliban creature is ripping up the hold of the Rocinante was a bit daft in several ways, not least that apparently you can pull a load of pipes out of the guts of the ship with not much ill effect
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Well, as you said, it was ripping up the hold. Don't forget that the Rocinante is bigger than just the pressurised volumes we see when the crew are on board. If I ripped a hole in the boot of a car, I'd still be able to drive it just fine.
 
NoXion said:
Well, as you said, it was ripping up the hold. Don't forget that the Rocinante is bigger than just the pressurised volumes we see when the crew are on board. If I ripped a hole in the boot of a car, I'd still be able to drive it just fine.
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Yeah but next time you turned on the windscreen wipers the washer bottle would be empty :mad:
 
Yeah, in fact you'd probably just fuck up the spare tyre, which would only be a problem come the next puncture...
 
DotCommunist said:
also: redundancy.
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It is a military ship, you'd expect that. So long as the magazines don't explode, a military boat (real one, on the water) can absorb a frankly unbelievable amount of damage and still float. There are various photos from WW2 of boats missing their entire bows coming in for repair. The ones that do go down quickly either explode (cf: Hood) or suffer an absurd amount of punishment (see Kirishima and the 20 16" shells she ate).

The real-world exception would be surprise damage (usually a torpedo) while the watertight doors are open and DC is asleep, but that doesn't really apply to the Roci here. They should have all been suited for hard vac if they had any sense, though.
 
Watched the 1st episode of S2, realised I could remember nothing of S1. So now I'm watching S1 again, with a constant sense of deja vu :D But it's fine, because it still is a pretty good watch!
 
I've worked out why I like Bobbie Draper.
she didn't defect because the military training was defective, or she saw through a lie. She's the first class martian marine, utterly dedicated. You could read in her lines and acting how troubled she was to give false testimony and how much it pained her. But for the good of the Project, for Mars, it must be borne. The mens memory will be honoured. It was the betrayal of that, the apportioning of blame to those who died under her command that broke the code. It was in the end that you have to know what is right, you have to have some honour. A truly dedicated part of an authoritarian military structure was fed a line of utilitarian bullshit and much like Jean-Luc said T'HE LINE MUST BE DRAWN HERE! THIS FAR, NO FURTHER!
 
DotCommunist said:
I've worked out why I like Bobbie Draper.
she didn't defect because the military training was defective, or she saw through a lie. She's the first class martian marine, utterly dedicated. You could read in her lines and acting how troubled she was to give false testimony and how much it pained her. But for the good of the Project, for Mars, it must be borne. The mens memory will be honoured. It was the betrayal of that, the apportioning of blame to those who died under her command that broke the code. It was in the end that you have to know what is right, you have to have some honour. A truly dedicated part of an authoritarian military structure was fed a line of utilitarian bullshit and much like Jean-Luc said T'HE LINE MUST BE DRAWN HERE! THIS FAR, NO FURTHER!
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You've obviously been dwelling in this for a while :)
 
Supine said:
You've obviously been dwelling in this for a while :)
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its odd in a way, one thing you don't always get from tv/film sci fi is a characters internal voice. In some (a lot) of written sci fi the internal monologue works for exposition and character in differing measure. So with something like this, live action I'm left trying to gauge why the character works, to examine my own response to it. Credit to the show that she isn't the easy stereotype of 'fit warrior woman' anymore than Fred Johnson is a stereotypical 'revolutionary madman'. There are depths.
 
Apologies if this has been pointed out before but Miller really reminds me of Johnny Nemo

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