Chz
Stark Raving Sane
I've not personally read the novels, but I'm told he's quite a bit less irritatingly sincere in the TV program. Also that psychotic guy's psychosis is a bit more human.
"The Expanse" - New near-future sci-fi TV
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NoXion
Craicy the Squirrel
Not read the books either, but Holden's idealism in the TV series has gotten on my tits at least once.
Amos I'm kind of ambivalent about. On one hand he can be scary, there's something clearly wrong with him and he knows it, while his impassive approach to violence magnifies his menace. But then he'll say or do something very humanising and I can't help but like the guy a little.
Amos I'm kind of ambivalent about. On one hand he can be scary, there's something clearly wrong with him and he knows it, while his impassive approach to violence magnifies his menace. But then he'll say or do something very humanising and I can't help but like the guy a little.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
'three kinds of people. Those you follow, those you protect and those you fight'. Can't find the direct quote, so thats likely paraphrasing, my mind is a sieve. But that one made me like the character more. Not without conscience of a kind.
trabuquera
Modesty Bag
Speak for yourself son
but in fact this is a cast groaning with lovelies of all genders, colours and sizes.EPIC BUMP because I'm so technologically backwards that I only just managed to binge the whole of s2 over three glorious days because it's now on Netflix. What's not to love. Has rocketed (oooh sorry) right to the centre of my heart and top of my favourites lists on so many grounds. Does get much more dramatic, and that's not even because of the ramping up of imaginary weapons or expensive CGI or sweeping space battles, but because the characters' internal motivation and the conflicts between their worldviews and ethics are being explored more. Some really tough-minded exploration of the philosophy of war, the rule of economics, how technology changes (?trumps?) culture, the inherent flaws of humans, individual vs group rights etc - of a much more sophisticated kind than you often get in SF. There is nothing about it I don't like, I just want more of it (indeed more of this sort of thing in general.) Genuinely awesome, in the 19th century sense of the word, in places too.
Crispy
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We're rewatching now it's on Netflix and as predicted earlier on this thread, it's really good the 2nd time through. You can see all the pieces moving.
I really *really* hope it's doing well enough on streaming services to keep going to the end. The authors have the whole plot mapped out, so no getting lost in the weeds like BSG or hurridly wrapping up frayed loose ends like GoT.
I really *really* hope it's doing well enough on streaming services to keep going to the end. The authors have the whole plot mapped out, so no getting lost in the weeds like BSG or hurridly wrapping up frayed loose ends like GoT.
NoXion
Craicy the Squirrel
It doesn't detract from the story at all, in fact I'd have a hard time suspending my sense of disbelief if entirely new cultures had arisen in space andIt's alright but the daft accents are getting on my tits. Detracts from the story line & doesn't really add anything. If someone could dub it in RP & Queens English that'd be most appreciated
they all sounded like present day Brits.
EastEnder
Brixton Barnacle
But you have no problem with them all speaking English (albeit a silly dialect)?It doesn't detract from the story at all, in fact I'd have a hard time suspending my sense of disbelief if entirely new cultures had arisen in space and
Why aren't they speaking a variant of Chinese?
NoXion
Craicy the Squirrel
Why would they? Given that English already exists as a global auxiliary language, why would that change in less than two centuries?But you have no problem with them all speaking English (albeit a silly dialect)?
Why aren't they speaking a variant of Chinese?
Crispy
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It's not a Dialect, it's a Creole. There's some Chinese in there.
That Cool Dialect on The Expanse Mashes Up 6 Languages
That Cool Dialect on The Expanse Mashes Up 6 Languages
Agent Sparrow
the age of slippers and migraines
I like the Belter accent. And I only find it amusing that no one version of it is exactly the same 
Crispy
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S2 ordered Dec 2015, premiered Feb 2017
S3 ordered Mar 2017, premieres ??? 2018
Would be around May if it takes the same amount of time to make.
trabuquera
Modesty Bag
I like the Belter accent. And I only find it amusing that no one version of it is exactly the same
yer, (yah? yeah? yea? yes indeedy? yu betcha?), I thought the same thing ... some actors give it a definite Jamaican/Jafakean tang, others seem to be veering more towards W African Pidgin ... Cara Gee sounds more like a posh Japanese lady trying to talk Cockney ... Beltalowda go their own way, right? (honestly I think it's just down to the individual actor and they're mostly just making it up as they go along anyway). I don't care really - just the fact that there IS a Belter accent and dialect shows a level of worldbuilding smarts most sci fi does not bother with.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
Jared Harris has an od one, but then he talks like that on Fringe as well so maybe its his normal voice only slightly tweaked
NoXion
Craicy the Squirrel
Apparently Belter Creole has dialects, according to the wiki. Would make sense, everything's all far apart in space even when you've got an Epstein drive.I like the Belter accent. And I only find it amusing that no one version of it is exactly the same
NoXion
Craicy the Squirrel
It comes out next year, so still a while yet I'm afraid. I saw it earlier this year and I was bummed to hear I'd have to wait that long for the continuation.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
just realised the martians are a bit daily mail. Disgusted at filthy earthers on the universal dole, militaristic and pompous. anymore parallels.
trabuquera
Modesty Bag
^ they also lament the coarsening of youth morals and thing young people don't know what it is to sacrifice any more
Agent Sparrow
the age of slippers and migraines
Yes I wondered similar and thought it would be a good excuse
Agent Sparrow
the age of slippers and migraines
I swear one person sounded Scottishyer, (yah? yeah? yea? yes indeedy? yu betcha?), I thought the same thing ... some actors give it a definite Jamaican/Jafakean tang, others seem to be veering more towards W African Pidgin ... Cara Gee sounds more like a posh Japanese lady trying to talk Cockney ... Beltalowda go their own way, right? (honestly I think it's just down to the individual actor and they're mostly just making it up as they go along anyway). I don't care really - just the fact that there IS a Belter accent and dialect shows a level of worldbuilding smarts most sci fi does not bother with.
Re: Cara Gee, Drummer is fast becoming one of my favourite minor characters
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
Mars is blatantly fascist. On the other hand, that Lt. Gunney (?) turned out to be probably my favourite character by the end of S2. I guess it's like they say, fascists are cool
looking for a cleaner time, earth corrupted etc..ruined by the weak..
does this angle play out more in the books I will get around to?
BigTom
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there's a blood and soil reference too, they talk about having martian dust in their blood iirc
mojo pixy
...שלא נמצא בשמאל
I honestly don't know about those books, but the trope is familiar.
Crispy
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She's a Gunnery Sergeant, hence "Gunny"Mars is blatantly fascist. On the other hand, that Lt. Gunney (?) turned out to be probably my favourite character by the end of S2. I guess it's like they say, fascists are cool
Her name's Bobbie Draper.
Wiki says Mars is a representative democracy with separation of powers etc.
Not sure they're fascist as such, just very sure of their purpose
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