little_legs
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He gone. Tories can't fire BoJo right now.
The Dominic Cummings file
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agricola
a genuine importer of owls
ska invita
back on the other side
agricola
a genuine importer of owls
massively so, but with just a few glimmers of things that could be read as criticisms later on
bimble
floofy
What does this bit actually mean do you reckon
"Johnson, who is a civil libertarian at heart, spent the week resisting Cummings's demands for a full-blown lockdown of London — banning inhabitants from travelling outside the city.
Discussions about a shutdown were first aired at Cobra on Friday the 13th. By Tuesday the news was leaking after a Cabinet Office official emailed other departments to ask how a curfew might work. A Whitehall insider said: "It was quickly established that the Paris model — with people being issued paperwork and allowed out of the family home one at a time would not work."
A senior Tory said: "Boris really doesn't want to shut stuff down. He is more worried than most about the economic impact but also the social impact of locking people up in their homes for months. Fundamentally there is a Boris-Dom cleavage. First Boris bottled herd immunity. Now he's bottling lockdown."
What makes us different from France in this?
"Johnson, who is a civil libertarian at heart, spent the week resisting Cummings's demands for a full-blown lockdown of London — banning inhabitants from travelling outside the city.
Discussions about a shutdown were first aired at Cobra on Friday the 13th. By Tuesday the news was leaking after a Cabinet Office official emailed other departments to ask how a curfew might work. A Whitehall insider said: "It was quickly established that the Paris model — with people being issued paperwork and allowed out of the family home one at a time would not work."
A senior Tory said: "Boris really doesn't want to shut stuff down. He is more worried than most about the economic impact but also the social impact of locking people up in their homes for months. Fundamentally there is a Boris-Dom cleavage. First Boris bottled herd immunity. Now he's bottling lockdown."
What makes us different from France in this?
Brixton Hatter
Home is south London mate
"Johnson had also been queasy about the previous original approach."
When you're not quite happy at the idea of hundreds of thousands of people dying, but you go along with it anyway cos Dom persuaded you.
When you're not quite happy at the idea of hundreds of thousands of people dying, but you go along with it anyway cos Dom persuaded you.
ska invita
back on the other side
British exceptionalism.
I do think it's avoidable but it needs a massive step up in message from government. So unavoidable then
I do think it's avoidable but it needs a massive step up in message from government. So unavoidable then
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
There is a bit of a cultural difference, in that the French are already used to the idea that they have to carry id with them and that they can be stopped and compelled to show it.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
I would take this whole story as a work of fiction, tbh. Cummings must know that part of his job is to take the fall when his master needs saving.
agricola
a genuine importer of owls
True, though he knows he is the last man to get thrown under the bus - there is an entire government, civil service and the indestructible Corbyn to go before him.
Brixton Hatter
Home is south London mate
yeah possibly, but I think the whole situation reflects worse on TCJ than Cummings.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Sometimes only the sacrifice of the favourite son will appease the gods.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Whatever Cummings has advised, it is Johnson's decision to make, and yes, this attempted distancing of himself from his decisions makes him look terrible. But it is still better for him to have Cummings saying the unthinkable about deaths rather than Johnson himself. That's Cummings' function. A very public sacking after saying the unthinkable and it being the wrong thing will also serve a function.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
All that said, the reported story does sound all too believable. Cummings clearly does think he's a genius, and he prides himself on being 'up' on science, so the idea that he would consider his own opinion on the science to be superior to that of the scientists telling him about it is very plausible.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Only sheeple believe that, motherfucker!
Raheem
Well-Known Member
That must be why he can't say how many children he has. He's keeping one secret from Odin.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
But without Campbell's vague grasp of public relations.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Once they've tasted human blood...
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Johnson is a bully. Like most bullies, he's afraid of other bullies, even skinny little ringpieces that look like Gollum.
nogojones
spelling is overrated
I think they'll throw the chief medical and scientific officers under there first. "We were just listening to the experts"
Like all good government specialist advisors in the UK, they provide the expert backing for whatever batshit crazy policy their masters think up. Just look at the state of the ACMD
little_legs
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Someone is shitting themselves
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Thing is, Cummings has done his job now really. He got Johnson elected, and with a big majority. Whatever happens to him now, he's been a success. 
agricola
a genuine importer of owls
they are doing that now, tbh - "the science was wrong" etc
nogojones
spelling is overrated
To be honest I hope the bus fucking reverses back over them just to make sure
Idris2002
canadian girlfriend
That's been clear since August 1914
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