The Dominic Cummings file

[Badgers]

My MP is a lazy feckless Tory who's only interest is his career. Blocks people on social media who ask questions, never responds to emails and is barely ever even here.

Hitchin and Harpenden MP Bim Afolami refuses to answer questions on Dominic Cummings scandal

Harpenden and Hitchin MP Bim Afolami has refused to be drawn on the Dominic Cummings controversy, and has ignored questions about his...

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Here he is

 

[Lord Camomile]

Here he is

This is one of the (many) weird things about their argument: it hinges on them 'believing' either the public are too stupid to understand the rules, or the rules weren't communicated well enough. Neither are a great look for those in power.

 

[two sheds]

This is one of the (many) weird things about their argument: it hinges on them 'believing' either the public are too stupid to understand the rules, or the rules weren't communicated well enough. Neither are a great look for those in power.

Not that the rules were quite fucking clear - you don't move if you've got symptoms. Things have suddenly changed retrospectively for some reason.

 

[kenny g]

Not that the rules were quite fucking clear - you don't move if you've got symptoms. Things have suddenly changed retrospectively for some reason.

That's the thing about this which is so remarkable. He had symptoms. He was a potential super spreader. We had only seen a few weeks earlier people smear it across the country as they came back from skiing holidays. People with symptoms all over the country were doing the decent thing and completely locking down. At the very least they weren't heading out hundreds of miles to new areas. This wasn't a potential risk. It was an actual one.

 

[Mogden]

Here he is

He's got Tory tongue too. It seems to be a prerequisite to not be able to speak fluently if you're Blue

 

[Streathamite]

I feel that this Cummings story is becoming a distraction from the insidious creep of this stupid word which is what we should actually be focusing on dealing with.

What a strange sense of priorities you have

 

[Roadkill]

That Kuenssberg decision is crazy - the BBC claim she was accurately reporting what a source said, but at no point has she ever acknowledged that the source was wrong about almost everything:



Cummings was very clear afterwards that he didn't stay with his parents, he wasn't ill when he went up there (though his wife was) and the parents did not help with childcare.

This thread looks like a plausible explanation of what happened, albeit one that goes out of its way to empathise with Kuenssberg:



edit - he's done one of his periodic disappearing acts from Twitter so now showing as unavailable. It was DAG again, arguing that Kuenssberg had probably tweeted in good faith from a source who, if not Cummings himself, was very close to him, but that his story had subsequently changed, which supports the contention that his statement a few days ago was reverse-engineered.

 

[existentialist]

I don't see anything wrong with the post referenced. It is on topic.
If anything it is more mild than many more established posters have made on this very thread.
What is the justification for this thread ban?

Seems pretty obvious to me. He adds nothing to any debate he's part of, and his contributions are almost invariably half-arsed and deniable attempts to either merely disrupt debate, or to start sneaking alt-right bullshit into them. He's clever - or lucky - enough to be very careful about how he does this, in order that the more short-sighted and credulous don't see anything wrong with the poison he's oh-so-carefully spreading, but it doesn't take much of a step back to look at the overall pattern of his posts and see that he's a nasty piece of work.

I don't want to follow in your footsteps and criticise a modding decision...but I will say that I find it a remarkable example of tolerance that he has been allowed to remain on the boards so long.

 

[phillm]

Turns out lying badly was a key priority on the job description that Johnson wrote - are we absolutely sure 'Cunnings' only has the one kid ?

 

[Streathamite]

My mp said the only one criticising Cummings were 'left wing critics'

In a way - good. It shows how totally they are out of touch with public opinion

 

[two sheds]

Although compared with them everyone's a left wing critic.

 

[Streathamite]

Except Brian Harvey would make a more convincing witness.

By ‘discredited sister’ do you mean in relation to the BIG PHARMA DEAL conspirosphere stuff?

Because the issue with that is that there is an Alice Cummings (no relation) who is a director of various private sector medical equipment/services companies, who was conflated by some with an Alice Cummings in the Durham area, and assumed to be Dom's sibling.

Which doesn't negate his actually having a sister (but not called Alice).

Yep, you got it right. The Alice Cummings who is a serial company director (incidentally, some of those companies being relatively innocuous) is zero relation to Cummings, whose sister is actually called Sarah

 

[Streathamite]

If Johnson isn't who is?

Most probably Cummings

 

[Mogden]

Not sure this is the right thread but it's the most active. Smug little weasel.

 

[Petcha]

Not sure this is the right thread but it's the most active. Smug little weasel.

Jesus H Christ. Is he hammered?

 

[Streathamite]

The difference with a centre manager is they mainly have operational oversight, PMs are supposed to operate at a strategic/leadership level.

Agreed entirely, but the whole point about our current government is that he seems to be about a million miles from giving that.
That, plus the whole government seems so dysfunctional and downright rudderless

 

[DaveCinzano]

Yep, you got it right. The Alice Cummings who is a serial company director (incidentally, some of those companies being relatively innocuous) is zero relation to Cummings, whose sister is actually called Sarah

I've just been Jezsplained!

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Not sure this is the right thread but it's the most active. Smug little weasel.

Not just smug, but notice the continuing all-pervasive pattern. The app clearly isn't ready/doesn't work/will never work, so they retrofit a story to say how you need the system in place first before you unleash the app. First I've heard of that. Sounds exceedingly unlikely. Stalinist revision of history yet again. It's what they do as a reflex.

 

[kenny g]

Not sure this is the right thread but it's the most active. Smug little weasel.

In previous decades people like him would have had that expression thrashed out of them on some suitable playing fields or by future foreign secretaries.

 

[DaveCinzano]

Jesus H Christ. Is he hammered?

At times like this I think there are definitely some Old Boy networks we could all get behind

 

[brogdale]

Just heard someone on radio mention that any Serco track & tracer ringing anyone in Barnard Castle might get some contact details of a London resident!

 

[Combustible]

If getting rid of Stephen Kinnock is the price for Cummings, then with a heavy heart it is sacrifice I for one would be willing to make.

 

[Mogden]

Jesus H Christ. Is he hammered?

No it's a nervous laugh. Like when you do a PMSL at a funeral. Not an excuse for him clearly but it explains what it is. There's a lot of leaks in his movements too. Lots of head shaking, left to right.

 

[two sheds]

No it's a nervous laugh. Like when you do a PMSL at a funeral. Not an excuse for him clearly but it explains what it is. There's a lot of leaks in his movements too. Lots of head shaking, left to right.

True, but a bit more than a nervous laugh, it's to hide his lying denial. A bit more like turning up late at a funeral and saying "what are you all here for? he's not dead. You've all come too early don't criticize me for coming too late."

 

[scifisam]

What we all need is a health minister laughing while people die.

 

[Petcha]

True, but a bit more than a nervous laugh, it's to hide his lying denial. A bit more like turning up late at a funeral and saying "what are you all here for? he's not dead. You've all come too early don't criticize me for coming too late."

It does look like he's finally totally lost it. tbf, it's a fucking stressful job he's got but still. Bonkers.

 

[SpookyFrank]

He's got Tory tongue too. It seems to be a prerequisite to not be able to speak fluently if you're Blue

It's a relatively rare skill to be able to improvise a coherent set of lies. Tory natural selection might once have favoured this trait but it has become sidelined in favour of the most important characteristic; complete moral bankruptcy.

I suppose all the really effective psychopaths realised long ago that there's more money to be made in the private sector, with even less accountability. I don't know what makes these people choose politics instead, probably it's narcisssism but without the cold objectivity.

 

[SpookyFrank]

No it's a nervous laugh. Like when you do a PMSL at a funeral. Not an excuse for him clearly but it explains what it is. There's a lot of leaks in his movements too. Lots of head shaking, left to right.

The true comedy genius of Matt Lucas' version of Johnson's announcement was the way he shook his head for positive statements, nodded for negative ones.

 

[Mogden]

I don't know what makes these people choose politics instead, probably it's narcisssism but without the cold objectivity.

Background I would guess. It's expected of them and they're trained for it from a young age.

There's been a haunting line in psychopaths this week including a CEO who has just been ousted from the venture capitalist company he works for.

 

[ruffneck23]

hmm..