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[Pickman's model]

Who wants a three day old sarnie anyway?

British rail catering nostalgists

 

[Pickman's model]

Who wants a three day old sarnie anyway?

I hear they'll be much in demand among lorry drivers in kent

 

[andysays]

Who wants a three day old sarnie anyway?

Just you wait.

By 2nd January once the Brexit apocalypse has arrived you'll literally kill for a three day old ham and cheese sarnie.

 

[Pickman's model]

Just you wait.

By 2nd January once Brexit apocalypse has arrived you'll literally kill for a three day old ham and cheese sarnie.

I've seen TopCat's kitchen and he's prepared for seven lean years

 

[brogdale]

#RatsandRainwater

 

[Badgers]

Guardian leads with Gove's 'grace' for grub to NI...

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...which pretty much confirms that, after the period of grace, the Sainsbury fear of 2 certs/ham+cheese sarnie will apply.

Project Reality.

Some inside knowledge. The ham and cheese are both treated as animal products so a single declaration.

If there was Cucumber too then it would be two declarations (animal/phytosanitary).

 

[two sheds]

Gravel sandwiches with no butter it is then

 

[Winot]

Some inside knowledge. The ham and cheese are both treated as animal products so a single declaration.

If there was Cucumber too then it would be two declarations (animal/phytosanitary).

How many declarations for jacket potato with cheese and beans? What about jacket potato with beans and cheese?

 

[ska invita]

Some inside knowledge.

Do you know how long Gove's "not for very long" grace period will last?

 

[Pickman's model]

Do you know how long Gove's "not for very long" grace period will last?

Until we reach the end of the string

 

[Badgers]

How many declarations for jacket potato with cheese and beans? What about jacket potato with beans and cheese?

Potatoes, tinned beans and cheese will require phytosanitry/animal declarations unless shipped together. If shipped together they need an enhanced declaration.

That applies for GB-NI

Goods from NI-GB require no declarations unless they fall under 'controlled goods'

Goods movements 'at risk' from GB-NI (that may enter the EU via Ireland are subject to tariffs (TBC).

 

[Raheem]

Do you know how long Gove's "not for very long" grace period will last?

I was under the impression that the plan was to hang him pretty much on day one.

 

[Flavour]

If goods aren't controlled from NI into GB and the RoI/6c border remains frictionless then isn't that an easy route to smuggle stuff into the UK?

 

[ska invita]

If goods aren't controlled from NI into GB

They will be, after a short grace period

 

[Pickman's model]

I was under the impression that the plan was to hang him pretty much on day one.

hanging too good etc

 

[Badgers]

They will be, after a short grace period

They won't

 

[Badgers]

If goods aren't controlled from NI into GB and the RoI/6c border remains frictionless then isn't that an easy route to smuggle stuff into the UK?

Yea

 

[Pickman's model]

They won't

they will be controlled or they won't be controlled? i'm confused as to where we are

 

[two sheds]

200+ crossing points aren't there as I recall?

No chance of smuggling there sir.

 

[Pickman's model]

200+ crossing points aren't there as I recall?

No chance of smuggling there sir.

there's places where one side of a house is in the 6 cos and the other in the 26

 

[ska invita]

200+ crossing points aren't there as I recall?

No chance of smuggling there sir.

i thought we were talking about NI and mainland Britain
but yeah no checks between Ireland and NI
Until theres deviation on standards!!

 

[teuchter]

they will be controlled or they won't be controlled? i'm confused as to where we are

We're in the UK.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

So how does Johnson present the capitulation as a triumph? Does he need to care that the ERG will be apoplectic?

 

[Pickman's model]

We're in the UK.

you manage to state the bleeding obvious and miss the point in one carefully confected piece of fuckwittery

 

[TopCat]

If goods aren't controlled from NI into GB and the RoI/6c border remains frictionless then isn't that an easy route to smuggle stuff into the UK?

They have to get that stuff into ireland in the first place. Unless you are talking about smuggling poteen. In which case bring it in.

 

[TopCat]

So how does Johnson present the capitulation as a triumph? Does he need to care that the ERG will be apoplectic?

I dont think most will notice and less will give a care.

 

[not-bono-ever]

Sunlit uplands and a gold age of opportunity for the next generation of young Turk slab murphys

 

[SpookyFrank]

So how does Johnson present the capitulation as a triumph? Does he need to care that the ERG will be apoplectic?

It's the apoplexy of his financial rather than political backers he'll be more worried about.

 

[gosub]

Boris Johnson heads to Brussels for last-ditch Brexit trade talks with EU chief phew, I

was anyone daft enough to believe they’d rushed through the vaccine approval out of some kind of concern for humanity rather than trying to get some PR win to hide the Brexit shitshow behind?

Yes and no, we always were going to have horses in the race for vaccine

I dont think most will notice and less will give a care.

Depends, its have Labour prop up the 'deal' and get booted out by tory membership in Spring or no deal and soldier on

 

[littlebabyjesus]

It's the apoplexy of his financial rather than political backers he'll be more worried about.

You'd think so. I still back a deal with Johnson backing down on almost everything and trying to make out it is a triumph of diplomacy. It's not a dead cert, but abandoning Cummings' 'let's just break the law' approach was a signal that this is coming.