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[teqniq]

....Erm. Truthtwisters alert:

 

[Badgers]

Brussels wants the UK to adhere to EU rules on issues like workers' rights, environmental regulations and state aid,

but the UK says the goal of Brexit was to break free from following common rules.

Those European monsters

 

[Artaxerxes]

....Erm. Truthtwisters alert:

Is this the deal the government rewrote?


That deal.

 

[brogdale]

The highly controversial Kent Lorry Park, also known as the Farage Garage, has suffered a major setback after a massive sink hole 80 metres wide and 60 metres deep appeared in the middle of the site. Senior ministers have rushed to the site and are looking into it.

Don't it always seem to go
That you don't know what you got 'til it's gone...

 

[Badgers]

 

[Badgers]

Builders run short of supplies as UK port holdups raise Brexit concerns | Construction industry | The Guardian

Tools and materials stuck in ports struggling to process surge in imports under Covid controls

amp.theguardian.com

Builders are running short of everything from power tools and screws to timber and roof tiles as the gridlock at UK ports holds up crucial deliveries and sets off alarm bells in the run-up to Brexit.

 

[tommers]

The highly controversial Kent Lorry Park, also known as the Farage Garage, has suffered a major setback after a massive sink hole 80 metres wide and 60 metres deep appeared in the middle of the site. Senior ministers have rushed to the site and are looking into it.

Mother Kent is telling them to fuck off.

 

[kabbes]

If no deal is signed, presumably France is entitled to no fishing rights at all in British waters?

 

[Badgers]

If no deal is signed, presumably France is entitled to no fishing rights at all in British waters?

Good luck with policing that

 

[kabbes]

Good luck with policing that

Right. So what we’re seeing here is the utter failure of the doctrine of Mutually Assured Destruction

 

[Badgers]

Right. So what we’re seeing here is the utter failure of the doctrine of Mutually Assured Destruction

Well, we have upped the defence budget (not nurses salaries) so might as well use it.

 

[Badgers]

 

[Badgers]

From 1st January 2021 any fish caught attempting to flee British waters will be shot.

 

[Pickman's model]

They won’t walk out.

no indeed they'll crawl out defeated

 

[Pickman's model]

From 1st January 2021 any fish caught attempting to flee British waters will be shot.

(((((michael fish)))))

 

[not-bono-ever]

If no deal is signed, presumably France is entitled to no fishing rights at all in British waters?

. Likely yes. Reverts to normal 6/12 miles default . Where it gets interesting is the 200 mile exclusive economic area that covers offshore access rights that was overridden by the London accord or agreements of last century but is being invoked again. New cod war possible. But maybe not cod iykwim.

 

[not-bono-ever]

One thing to bear in mind is the effective removal of swathes of sea where wind turbines are sitting around the coast now.Them cods are starting to move to theses new sites and there is a repopulation of these mini ecosystems as fishing isn’t allowed in these zones. Good news for fish, bad new fir the blunt instrument of industrial scale trawling . This will be another issue in the near future

 

[MickiQ]

If no deal is signed, presumably France is entitled to no fishing rights at all in British waters?

Yes but we don't really have enough in the way of patrol vessels to enforce it, giant aircraft carriers not really a lot of use in this role. Even with competent government that planned ahead (stop laughing) it takes time (and money) to build/buy vessels and train crews so I suspect there will be much ignoring of UK sovereignity going on for a while.

 

[not-bono-ever]

Iceland framed the cod wars as a battle against colonialism and imperialism & got properly involved in a war of sabotage against the brits. The brits used much of it fleet as adapted battering rams against the plucky Icelandic underdogs. The iceys won eventually. I wonder if some the new cash going to the military is earmarked for such tactics?

 

[not-bono-ever]

/ dull fish based posts

 

[Pickman's model]

/ dull fish based posts

you've haddock nuff of that then

 

[brogdale]

So the hard Brexit will be some sort of a pescatarian nirvana, then?

 

[Raheem]

So the hard Brexit will be some sort of a pescatarian nirvana, then?

Smells Like Bream Spirit

 

[brogdale]

Smells Like Bream Spirit

I'll tee 'em up....

 

[Supine]

If no deal is signed, presumably France is entitled to no fishing rights at all in British waters?

I don't think there is anything to sign. No deal is just the law kicking in (or out).

 

[Raheem]

I'll tee 'em up....

...and I'll pretend I know how to play.

 

[brogdale]

Christ on a bike, NYE is gonna be such a cunt-fest, isn't it?

 

[Raheem]

Christ on a bike, NYE is gonna be such a cunt-fest, isn't it?

Reckon they'll all be lying low, actually.

 

[brogdale]

Reckon they'll all be lying low, actually.

On 'independence day'?

 

[kabbes]

I don't think there is anything to sign. No deal is just the law kicking in (or out).

Yea but if you don’t sign a deal then that means no deal is signed. Not ‘no deal’ is signed. Just no ‘deal is signed’.