The Alt-Right

[hitmouse]

The America First conference is the groyper conference mentioned upthread, organised by Charlottesville marcher Nick Fuentes. A bit more background:

Extremist social media influencers to gather offline for first time since Capitol attack

Far-right America First organizers are leveraging social media followings and propaganda to draw supporters to Florida conference

medium.com

What you need to know about AFPAC, the white nationalist alternative to CPAC

For when CPAC isn't conservative enough.

www.dailydot.com

 

[petee]

can i put greenwald here now?

 

[frogwoman]

This red brown shite is everywhere now.

 

[NoXion]

I think Tucker Carlson would be scandalised at being called a socialist. He's a proud poodle for the ruling class.

 

[AmateurAgitator]

can i put greenwald here now?

FFS! How fucking awful and fucked up does your politics have to be to describe Steve Bannon and Tucker Carlson as socialist!!! WTAF!!

 

[Pickman's model]

FFS! How fucking awful and fucked up does your politics have to be to describe Steve Bannon and Tucker Carlson as socialist!!! WTAF!!

surely a national missing there

 

[hitmouse]

This red brown shite is everywhere now.

Tucker Carlson is like flypaper for it. Hard to think of many red-brown leaning arseholes who haven't been on his show by this point.

 

[Jeff Robinson]

Very sad to see this. Really respected Greenwald, but this has been a long time in the making, he's had 'Trump Derangement Derangement Syndrome' for some time now.

 

[petee]

hear his economically anxious cry

 

[hitmouse]

A few updates:

Trump appointee arrested in connection with Capitol riot

Federico Klein, a former State Department aide, was picked up Thursday on charges stemming from the Jan. 6 takeover of Congress.

www.politico.com

Rep. Paul Gosar Tweets White Nationalist Group’s Motto

After speaking at a white nationalist "America First" conference recently, the Arizona congressman appears to be doubling down on his support of the group.

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk

Gosar’s office did not respond to a HuffPost request for comment on why he felt compelled to post the white nationalist group’s slogan ― especially since immediately after his controversial speech to the organization, he made a somewhat half-hearted effort to distance himself from it...

Rep. Liz Cheney (R-Wyo.) was one of the few Republicans in Congress who spoke out against Gosar, telling Politico: “I think the organization that [Gosar] spoke to is one that has expressed views that are clearly racist … This is not the kind of an organization or an event that other members of Congress should be participating in.”

HuffPost last week reached out to the offices of seven prominent Republican lawmakers to see if they’d denounce Gosar for speaking at Fuentes’ white nationalist conference in Florida. None responded.

And a very lengthy profile of "Stop the Steal" organizer Ali Alexander: How Republican Politics (And Twitter) Created Ali Alexander, The Man Behind ‘Stop The Steal’

 

[frogwoman]

Very sad to see this. Really respected Greenwald, but this has been a long time in the making, he's had 'Trump Derangement Derangement Syndrome' for some time now.

He's not the only one.

 

[teqniq]

Rebekah Mercer providing large sums of money to relaunch Parler:

Mercer-Backed Parler Casts Its Reboot as Fight for Free Speech

Leaked recordings of meetings detail role of Rebekah Mercer at social-media platform

www.bloomberg.com

 

[hitmouse]

Recent update from the investigation into Jan 6th participants:

Navy investigators found contractor in Capitol riot was known as a white supremacist

A supervisor for Timothy Hale-Cusanelli told investigators she had to admonish him for sporting a “Hitler“ mustache.

www.politico.com

Prosecutors disclosed the NCIS investigation results in part to rebut a letter of support from one of Hale-Cusanelli’s supervisors at NWS Earle, Sgt. John Getz, submitted by defense lawyers to support Hale-Cusanelli’s release on bond. In a two-page letter, Getz told the court that he was “appalled at how [Hale-Cusanelli] was slandered in the press in regards to him being a ‘white supremacist.’"

“I have never known him to be this way. I know that our co-workers would agree,” Getz wrote, adding “Never have I seen Mr. Hale treat any of his African-American co-workers differently than anybody else, nor have I heard any distasteful jokes or language leave his mouth.”

Oh, maybe this poor bloke was just misrepresented and misunderstood...

But prosecutors say Getz’ letter contradicts his own statements to NCIS investigators about Hale-Cusanelli’s conduct. Getz told NCIS that Hale-Cusanelli “would make racial jokes and wouldn’t be quiet about it.” He said he knew Hale-Cusanelli was a Nazi sympathizer and Holocaust denier but that “nothing about Hale-Cusanelli’s statements struck him as dangerous.”

Getz also recalled that Hale-Cusanelli would “walk up to new people and ask ‘You’re not Jewish, are you?’”

“He described Hale-Cussnelli’s demeanor as ‘joking but not,'” according to the summary of the report.

... “Sergeant Getz stated that he did not feel compelled to include his observations of Defendant’s conduct, as reported to NCIS, in his letter to the Court,” prosecutors said. “Sergeant Getz elaborated that he wanted to ‘speak positively’ about Defendant for the bond hearing, and because he was not personally offended by Defendant’s conduct.”

Or maybe not. And, just to be clear, that conduct includes:

Of those interviewed, 34 agreed Hale-Cusanelli held “extremist or radical views pertaining to the Jewish people, minorities, and women.” One contractor colleague said he discussed his dislike for Jews every day. A supervisor told investigators she had to admonish him for sporting a “Hitler“ mustache (images of which prosecutors extracted from Hale-Cusanelli’s phone).
“A Navy Petty Officer stated that Defendant talked constantly about Jewish people and remembered Defendant saying ‘Hitler should have finished the job,’” according to prosecutors’ summary of the report.

 

[cantsin]

can i put greenwald here now?

genuinely surprised to see GG's direction travel becoming more and more obvs - his ' Atlanta shooter wasn't anti asian' BS is mad

 

[DaveCinzano]

‘Proud Boys chummy with cops’ shocker

Latest Proud Boys facing charges for Capitol riots have deep ties to police

Long before the insurrection on the U.S. Capitol, Charles Donohoe, leader of the Proud Boys' North Carolina chapter, was sharing posts via Telegram about the need to push back against Telegram. "We need to stop fighting Antifa in the streets where the cops are and start fighting them in bars and...

www.rawstory.com

 

[hitmouse]

Dunno if this should go in one of the corona/anti-vax threads, but suppose it works here:

11 National Guard Soldiers transporting vaccines held at gunpoint in West Texas, suspect arrested

An Arizona man has been arrested after he cut off and held at gunpoint a caravan of National Guardsmen transporting COVID-19 vaccines to Matador, Texas around 7 a.m. this morning, according to Idalou Police.

www.wafb.com

Very "late period Saddam Hussein" vibe in that mugshot.

 

[8ball]

Dunno if this should go in one of the corona/anti-vax threads, but suppose it works here:

11 National Guard Soldiers transporting vaccines held at gunpoint in West Texas, suspect arrested

An Arizona man has been arrested after he cut off and held at gunpoint a caravan of National Guardsmen transporting COVID-19 vaccines to Matador, Texas around 7 a.m. this morning, according to Idalou Police.

www.wafb.com

Very "late period Saddam Hussein" vibe in that mugshot.

Think it goes fine in that covid thread, or in the “healthcare in the US” thread, but this thread seems an odd place for it.

 

[hitmouse]

Think it goes fine in that covid thread, or in the “healthcare in the US” thread, but this thread seems an odd place for it.

I mean, it's almost-but-not-quite a candidate for the "mass shootings" thread in that it falls under "weird Americans having access to lots of guns". I suppose we'll learn more as the case progresses, it might be that this guy is somehow unrelated to the alt-rightist/Q conspiracy ecosystem, but I would be very very surprised if that were to be the case.

 

[petee]

Dunno if this should go in one of the corona/anti-vax threads, but suppose it works here:

11 National Guard Soldiers transporting vaccines held at gunpoint in West Texas, suspect arrested

An Arizona man has been arrested after he cut off and held at gunpoint a caravan of National Guardsmen transporting COVID-19 vaccines to Matador, Texas around 7 a.m. this morning, according to Idalou Police.

www.wafb.com

Very "late period Saddam Hussein" vibe in that mugshot.

holy living fuck.

 

[hitmouse]

Did you edit that post? I got a notification email saying I'd been quoted that seemed to say your post was saying something completely different.

 

[petee]

it begins ...

Georgia G.O.P. Passes Major Law to Limit Voting Amid Nationwide Push (Published 2021)

The law, which has been denounced by Democrats and voting rights groups, comes as Republican-controlled legislatures across the country mount the most extensive contraction of ballot access in generations.

www.nytimes.com

 

[cloudyday]

Look at the state of this daft twat.

 

[cloudyday]

 

[DaveCinzano]

Australian radio investigation into The Base

The Base Tapes | Part 1 - ABC listen

Secret recordings reveal how a global white supremacist terror group dedicated to inciting a race war recruited young Australian men. Alex Mann investigates.

www.abc.net.au

 

[hitmouse]

Today in "legal advice you hopefully should not need": please do not do this.

Capitol riot suspect wore 'I Was There' shirt when arrested

Garret Miller didn't speak to the law enforcement officers who arrested him on charges he stormed the U.S.

apnews.com

Garret Miller didn’t speak to the law enforcement officers who arrested him on charges he stormed the U.S. Capitol in January, but the T-shirt he was wearing at his Dallas home that day sent a clear and possibly incriminating message.

Miller’s shirt had a photograph of former President Donald Trump, and it said “Take America Back” and “I Was There, Washington D.C., January 6, 2021,” federal prosecutors noted in a court filing Monday.

Like many of the more than 300 people facing federal charges in connection with the siege, Miller thoroughly documented and commented on his actions that day in a flurry of social media posts.

After Miller posted a selfie showing himself inside the Capitol building, another Facebook user wrote, “bro you got in?! Nice!” Miller replied, “just wanted to incriminate myself a little lol,” prosecutors said.

 

[DaveCinzano]

FBI agents recruited a Proud Boys leader to provide them with information about antifa networks months before he was charged with storming the U.S. Capitol with other members of the far-right extremist group, a defense attorney says.

Proud Boys “thought leader” and organizer Joseph Biggs agreed to provide the FBI with information about anti-fascist activists in Florida and elsewhere after an agent contacted him in late July 2020 and arranged to meet at a restaurant, Biggs’ lawyer, J. Daniel Hull, wrote Monday in a court filing [...]

Antifa was the Trump administration’s villainous scapegoat for much of last year’s social unrest following the death of George Floyd. Trump and then-Attorney General William Barr blamed antifa activists for some of the violence at protests over police killings of Black people across the U.S.

The FBI and the Justice Department had launched a number of investigations into extremist groups around that time. They were focused on whether people were violating federal law by crossing state lines to commit violence or whether anyone was paying to send antifa followers to commit violence, a law enforcement official told The Associated Press [...]

FBI enlisted Proud Boys leader to inform on antifa, lawyer says

FBI agents recruited a Proud Boys leader to provide them with information about antifa networks months before he was charged with storming the U.S. Capitol with other members of the far-right extremist group, a defense attorney says.

www.oregonlive.com

 

[krtek a houby]

Confusing. Why would the feds be asking a Proud Boy tosser for info on antifa?

 

[petee]

Confusing. Why would the feds be asking a Proud Boy tosser for info on antifa?

well ... not confusing.
but actually i have no inside info on the attitudes within the various LE about rightwing groups, who, otoh, are engaged in violent activity which will make the FBIs', ATFs', state polices' lives harder, but, otoh, are rightwingers.

 

[Dogsauce]

Far right now playing ‘dogshit politics’ in Paris with an orchestrated Twitter campaign:

Paris hits back at filthy streets hashtag campaign

Thousands of Parisians post pictures of rubbish, but city officials blame a "smear campaign".

www.bbc.co.uk

Parking their tanks on the Lib Dem’s lawn.

 

[redsquirrel]

Confusing. Why would the feds be asking a Proud Boy tosser for info on antifa?

well ... not confusing.
but actually i have no inside info on the attitudes within the various LE about rightwing groups, who, otoh, are engaged in violent activity which will make the FBIs', ATFs', state polices' lives harder, but, otoh, are rightwingers.

There is a chapter on the interactions/links between law enforcement agencies and the far-right in Matthew Lyon's book Insurgent Supremicists. Its worth reading the book in full but to summarise

“Broadly speaking, security forces may tolerate, work with, or even sponsor violent rightist groups that target the left or oppressed communities, but are much more likely to suppress such groups when they challenge the state.

At the same time, in both periods federal security forces were also influenced by secondary factors, such as pressure from civil rights groups and liberal politicians (in the 1960s) and from conservative sympathizers with the Patriot movement (in the 2010s). In addition, some federal security initiatives—notably the FBI’s COINTELPRO-White Hate operation and the ATF’s encouragement of Klan-Nazi collaboration in the Greensboro massacre—unwittingly contributed to the rise of the armed revolutionary right in the first place. Since the 1980s, as far as we know, federal security treatment of the paramilitary far right has largely been reactive and inconsistent, veering between periods of energetic action and passive uncertainty, or between cautious restraint and brutal overreach