The Alt-Right

[butchersapron]

You really think that these "Proud Boys" are an effective political force? As opposed to being a tiny group of macho frat boys whose presence has been artificially inflated on the internet by their own self-publicism and useful idiot liberals?

I most certainly do not - i do think they have very effectively occupied the media space that modern technology affords and people like them are now dictating what is and what is the terms of 'public debate'. far far in advance of anything our side has managed to do. That's exactly why we're talking about these twats.

 

[cantsin]

You really think that these "Proud Boys" are an effective political force? As opposed to being a tiny group of macho frat boys whose presence has been artificially inflated on the internet by their own self-publicism and useful idiot liberals?

along with a variety of other alt right groups / platforms / players /pepe freaks etc I'd say the Proud Boys are playing their part in what could prove to be / possibly already is, an important development in political subculture in the US

eg : look at how potentially f*cked the Tories are over here, Heseltine pointing out that their supporter base is dying off at a rate of 3% per yr, and then Michael Gove + others calling for a 'Tory Momentum' - they're desperate to engage with the young, and the Proud Boys, or UK equivalent, could be a partial answer to how to begin addressing some of the Tories deep seated demog. problems / connecting with younger lot via hipsterfied ' Civic Nationalism ' and the like.

 

[cantsin]

I'm seeing little politics and a lot of frat boy antics.

BTW, Gavin McInnes was one of the founders of shitty hipster magazine Vice. I suspect the former ties in with the latter.

tbf to to Shane Smith / Alvi ( the other co founders ), they kicked his ass out a good 10 yrs ago - and the impact felt pretty immediate at the time, with the dull liberal / left baiting ending pretty sharply ( tho Smith was still slagging off OWS in 2011 - ish, whilst selling a stake to Murdoch - so under no illusions re : wider picture here) .

 

[butchersapron]

Far-right activists stopped as they try to block refugee rescue in the Mediterranean

Currently being blocked from entering ports to refuel and resupply by tunisian fisherman.

 

[Treacle Toes]

Fucked off from Crete last week too.

Far-right anti-migrant ship told it’s not welcome in Crete | Kathimerini

 

[NoXion]

So which port did they set out from? Because at this rate it looks like that will be the only port that will take them, assuming of course that they haven't changed their minds in the meantime. Which would be absolutely hilarious.

 

[butchersapron]

A pretty sober over-view of current state of affairs in the US

An Alt Right Update

These developments are extremely serious. Despite its disenchantment with the Trump administration, the Alt Right appears to be simultaneously building a real capacity for organized physical violence andstrengthening its grassroots connections with other rightist currents, including Trump supporters. Their focus on a shared enemy, whether Muslims or the black bloc, is helping to draw different rightist forces closer, and shared street fighting is deepening those ties. This type of activism is a direct physical threat to both oppressed communities and the Left, and can fuel authoritarian and supremacist tendencies within the state at all levels. To assume that breaking with Trump will leave the Alt Right weakened and marginalized would be a dangerous mistake.

At the same time, we shouldn’t exaggerate either the unity or the competence of this new wave of militant right-wing forces. Rightists are just as vulnerable as leftists to infighting, personality conflicts, and sectarian ideological squabbles. As journalist Shane Burley points out, Alt Rightists “are not politically savvy organizers; they are angry white men taking their rage out on everyone they think eroded their meager privilege.”28 So far, thankfully, their movement has failed to produce a skilled, charismatic leader who can unify them and provide strategic direction. (Richard Spencer may look dapper and sound polished in interviews, but he has never inspired devotion from the Alt Right as a movement.) And even a strong leader wouldn’t necessarily overcome the basic political differences separating Alt Rightists from their conservative fellow travelers. In the long run, if the Alt Right wants to coalesce with system-loyal rightists, it either has to win more people to its dream of right-wing revolution, or abandon it.

 

[bimble]

This is happening tomorrow: What You Need to Know About the Nazi Rally in Charlottesville, VA - It's Going Down

 

[butchersapron]

See also:

A Guide to Who’s Coming to the Largest White Nationalist Rally in a Decade

I have identified over thirty groups and prominent individuals who will be speaking at or attending the event, or have provided support for or endorsed it. This list includes Alt Right and Alt Lite members, neoconfederates, neonazis, racist pagans, Patriot movement paramilitaries, and even a European neonazi party. What follows is a scorecard of the Far Right groups that have announced they will attend the event, although undoubtedly many more will come

And despite the hype, this is still tiny. But as the first post-trump election attempt for the far-right to openly hold a mass far-right meeting rather than hide under the banner of free-speech or parasite on someone elses rally it might be a useful indicator of a few things.

 

[albionism]

Looks like they just attacked a small group of
counter protesters and then celebrated beating
them up with a few rounds of Seig Heil.

 

[teqniq]

Yup sounds rather nasty and OB no help here apparently

 

[albionism]

Yup sounds rather nasty and OB no help here apparently

 

[Treacle Toes]

White nationalists march through UVA with torches

 

[8den]

Kinda hurts the "Anitfa are the real fascists" narrative when you have literal Nazis marching beside you.

 

[cantsin]

Looks like they just attacked a small group of
counter protesters and then celebrated beating
them up with a few rounds of Seig Heil.

that was this c*nt at the front of them at the start off vid : Baked Alaska™ (@bakedalaska) on Twitter

hope he gets whats coming to him

 

[Treacle Toes]

Kinda hurts the "Anitfa are the real facists" narrative when you have literal Nazis marching beside you.

 

[8den]

No argument from me, I've had this installed for a while.

A useful Google Chrome extension autocorrects “alt-right” to “neo-Nazi”

 

[Treacle Toes]

WTAF?

 

[butchersapron]

They oath-keeper i think.

 

[bimble]

The state of them, with their shit torches, which women aren't allowed to carry.
Much chanting of 'white lives matter', 'Jews will not replace us' and 'Blood and Soil' , apparently.

 

[ska invita]

WTAF?

Supposedly the militia are this lot
3 Percenters - Wikipedia
http://www. iiisecurityforce.com

 

[planetgeli]

Yeah, 3%ers. 2nd Amendment dickheads.

Heads need cracking.

 

[TheHoodedClaw]

Buzzfeed tried to interview a group on the anti-right side who were massively exercising their 2nd Amendment rights. This bunch, apparently:

redneckrevolt

 

[Fedayn]

They're running away it seems......

 

[planetgeli]

Buzzfeed tried to interview a group on the anti-right side who were massively exercising their 2nd Amendment rights. This bunch, apparently:

redneckrevolt

Well, ain't that just great. It's just that I'm betting the armed right-wing revolters might just be a tiny bit bigger than the revolutionary left rednecks in the U S of A.

 

[butchersapron]

Well, ain't that just great. It's just that I'm betting the armed right-wing revolters might just be a tiny bit bigger than the revolutionary left rednecks in the U S of A.

They better not ever do anything then. Or even try to. Who is going to deliver that head cracking you were after?

 

[planetgeli]

They better not ever do anything then. Or even try to. Who is going to deliver that head cracking you were after?

You don't need to head crack with guns under some bullshit amendment designed for circumstances 200 years ago. Your first two sentences are especially wank (and not proposed by me. But you enjoy putting words in people's mouths don't you?) Go and have your 2nd Amendment defence with someone else. Not interested.

 

[butchersapron]

You don't need to head crack with guns under some bullshit amendment designed for circumstances 200 years ago. Your first two sentences are especially wank (and not proposed by me. But you enjoy putting words in people's mouths don't you?) Go and have your 2nd Amendment defence with someone else. Not interested.

I want these people to get fucked up but people who fuck them up are idiots. So don't try an fuck them up - you might not win.

Unless you're in the elite group of winners that planetgeli can point to. Leave it to them.

 

[planetgeli]

The only idiot I can see in this is you. Professional controversialist. Get a fucking life. And stop putting words in people's mouths. You enjoy being a liar don't you?

 

[butchersapron]

Remember before you hated everyone and everything?