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The 7/7 Report

Prole said:
the phone calls are just hearsay.

Yet again - failure to understand the concept "evidence".

The phone calls are reported in a newspaper. Which has to run every article by a lawyer before it can get onto the newsagents' shelves the following morning.

Are you denying these calls were made?

Had they been made, would you approve of them?
 
Oh, and prole, would you just like to put signature to the statement

Independent reporter Ian Herbert is a liar​

your real signature, please?
 
Prole said:
You guys just make this stuff up as you go along don't you. You've read this and now it has turned into a whole scenario.
So you have proof that the Independent made it all up, yes?

Unlike, you, I'm prepared to produce credible sources when challenged. Maybe you should try it instead of your endless weaselling.
The Hussains' struggle to accept that Hasib blew up the bus has been compounded by telephone conversations they have had in the past 12 months with conspiracy theorists who claim the London attacks were a "black psy-ops" mission organised by the security services to test London's defences, or to foment anti-Muslim feeling.

The Hussains have clung to those theories - and have been prepared to discuss little else during several lengthy conversations with The Independent.
http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/crime/article1162834.ece
So, do you condemn these fuitloop scumbags who have been ringing him up or not?
 
Prole said:
night guys

and remember all the victims of July 7th tomorrow.

Cheap.

My friend's sister was 3 feet from the Aldgate bomb. I'm disgusted with fantasists like you. Getting your kicks from playing fantasy investigators.

Do you spout this shit publicly? I mean, down the pub with your mates? To your family? To your work colleagues?

I'm interested. Go on, tell. I want to get a picture.
 
editor said:
Yeah. You're just so damn multicultural and down with all the people, aren't you?

I'm not in with the crowd or down with the people. I'm just not closed minded to hang around with people who agree with everything i say. I happen to listen to people who know more than me and unlike me are actually doing something about this mess rather than wasting time arguing on a website with people who have no desire to reach the truth.

You wanna listen to some of the lyrics to asian hip hop bands springing up in london. Alot of talk about government lies, police executions on the tube, illuminati, new world order. Now i don't agree with much of these lyrics, but i can't deny they mean it. And it's not virtual. Your scheme to trash all conspiracy theory has failed. It's more popular than ever and if you wanna separate the plausible theories from the disinformation you'll have to change your approach and stop demanding evidence and start asking some honest questions.

Here you have your own little bubble where you can pretend any conspiracy theory can be shot down with personal attacks on posters' sanity. Editor is lord and king on here, but out in the real world, you're just a computer nerd with a few nerdy mates who all hang around together. Can't see you going somewhere without your "crew" around you. Oh yes, i forgot, you're the cool ones. Hanging around brixton, going to the cool pubs. Nice little bubble. Sorry i must be cramping your style pretending to be so down with the people when it's obviously you who are so down with the people. You can tell from the words you use.

Only in this virtual little world of yours. Out in the real world people are talking about these matters daily. But in your cosy little bubble the only poeple who talk conspiracy are nut jobs. When you talk to middle-aged Muslim mini-cab drivers, shopkeepers, ticket sellers on the tube you hear what's going on, what poeple are really thinking. And no one trusts the gov and no one knows what the fuck's going on.

But you would rather they didn't ask the questions.

And like you i would like that cleared up. But unlike you i'm not willing to trash anything that looks like it disturbs my own pet theory.

What do you think happened on 7/7?

Nah, I'm not down with the people. It's not hard to shut the fuck up and listen to what people are saying. But it's hard for you. I love the way you always deal out the pompous card last.

Read your own posts. You're not exactly self-effacing yourself are you now :rolleyes:
 
Anyway. A year ago today. And in memory of the innocent who lost their lives in the terror attacks I hope you all fall silent at midday today and remember that people did die that day and we're still no nearer getting to the truth about what happened.

And since hell would freeze over before any truth will be found on these boards...

....this conversation is over
 
paolo999 said:
Cheap.

My friend's sister was 3 feet from the Aldgate bomb. I'm disgusted with fantasists like you. Getting your kicks from playing fantasy investigators.

Do you spout this shit publicly? I mean, down the pub with your mates? To your family? To your work colleagues?

I'm interested. Go on, tell. I want to get a picture.


Oh yeah, she turns up at 7/7 peace activist author book launch meetings with her conspiraloon mates and makes speeches presenting it as a false flag op and barracked the author of a book linking 7/7 with Iraq, something they all plotted on their bnoards to hijack. In the audience was Gill Hicks, the train driver, 5 others including seriously injured from the bombed car at Kings X, and others from other cars of the train.

The row she was in called out 'Rachel needs to give her facts straight' and generally carried on catcalling and interrupting the speakers which included myself. Afterwards they pushed conspiraloon leaflets at survivors.

So yeah, she's pretty delusional, or shameless, or malicious. You decide.

Anyway, I am off to Russell Square, to lay flowers, with other people from my train, to remember all fellow passengers, especially those who didn't finish their journeys, on 3 trains and 1 bus a year ago. I will think of all those who love them and miss them, and those who helped to save lives and provide support. Which includes many at u75; you know who you are, and thank you.

Rachel North x
 
squeegee said:
Anyway. A year ago today. And in memory of the innocent who lost their lives in the terror attacks I hope you all fall silent at midday today and remember that people did die that day and we're still no nearer getting to the truth about what happened.

And since hell would freeze over before any truth will be found on these boards...

....this conversation is over

Go on squegee what do you think happened..??

Please I want to hear your side of the story. What happened to the four muslim lads..?? How come they were indentified (wrongly as you make out) as suicide bombers. What about the video tapes aired on Al-Jerezza..?? What about the cctv & the witness reports..?? What was in their rucksacks..?? Were they ever in London on 7th July 2005..??

You & prole can now give your side of the story. I am a Londoner, every day I take the Northern line to & from work, had the Northern lone not been operational there would have been a very good chance that I could have been effected by the bombings. So I need to know what happened.
 
squeegee said:
Here you have your own little bubble where you can pretend any conspiracy theory can be shot down with personal attacks on posters' sanity. Editor is lord and king on here, but out in the real world, your just a computer nerd with a few nerdy mates who all hang around together. Can't see you going somewhere without your "crew" around you. Oh yes, i forgot, you're the cool ones. Hanging around brixton, going to the cool pubs. Nice little bubble. Sorry i must be cramping your style pretending to be so down with the people when it's obviously you who are so down with the people. You can tell from the words you use.

What a sad, deluded twat you are. Thanks for the laughs, though.:D
 
squeegee said:
<load of laughable personal abuse snipped>

When you talk to middle-aged Muslim mini-cab drivers, shopkeepers, ticket sellers on the tube you here what's going on, what poeple are really thinking.
"Ticket sellers on the tube"?

Have you taken to talking to machines now?
 
"Ticket sellers on the tube"?

Have you taken to talking to machines now?


(audible burst of laughter)

Fantastic, brilliant. I am always uncomfortable when the conspiriloons hijack threads to post their Owl Worshiping Lizard stories but when they line themselves up so squarely to be hit so easily, you can't help but laugh.

"Ticket sellers on the tub".... superb =)
 
*walks up stairs at Brixton station*

'Travelcard, travelcard, conspiracy theory, psy-ops, travelcard'

'I'll have one of them conspiracy theories please mate'
 
Personally I think that people who talk about "black psy-ops" are just being racist. Or should that be rascist?
 
Oh how your gimps laughed at your inane joke, but people do sell tickets on the tube it's not all computerised yet.

The guy i buy my tickets from at the counter happens to be a friendly Pakistani guy who i chat to often and we've discussed 7/7. Yeah interesting talking to him. I'm sure you'd call him a conspiraloon and tell him to fuck off. That's about your level.

Anyway, fuck off with your sad comments. This will be the last post on here. And in a quarter of an hour i won't be thinking of sad techies who think they're cool cos they've moved to brixton.

Anyway, enough...
 
squeegee said:
Anyway, fuck off with your sad comments. This will be the last post on here. And in a quarter of an hour i won't be thinking of sad techies who think they're cool cos they've moved to brixton.

Anyway, enough...

It could be your last comment, but i don't think you'll be able to bite your tongue or fingers for that matter.

Have i called you a jibbering idiot in the last 24 hours? No? You're a jibbering idiot.
 
Squeegee: You wanna listen to some of the lyrics to asian hip hop bands springing up in london.
Asian Dub Foundation:

This is the round up. Who will speak for you?

Hammer coming down fast
Flag is flying full mast
Shield your eyes from the blast
You know it won't be the last
It's a round-up, it's a round up

Rifle butts through the door
Then you're kicked to the floor
Headlines screaming for more
Now you're a prisoner of war in the round-up
It's a round up

Dey come for Rasta, you say nothing
Dey come for Muslims, you say nothing
Dem come for y'anti-globalist, you say nothing
They come for liberals, you say nothing
Dem come for you, and who will speak for you?

Who will speak for you?

This is a countdown to the crackdown
Time to take a little trip downtown

Get in the lineup, there ain't no let up
This is a bona-fide government stick up (in the round-up)

From the fit up straight to the lock up
Through the touch-up and the drug up to the rough up

It's just a start up, so watch it speed up
It ain't enough to just put-up and shut-up (this is a round-up)
 
squeegee said:
The guy i buy my tickets from at the counter happens to be a friendly Pakistani guy who i chat to often and we've discussed 7/7.
Is this in the some fantasy-land remote country station somewhere, where the leisure-rich staff have gots lots of time to chat away about complex world issues with customers, yes?

squeegee: One day Travelcard please
Man In The Ticket Office: So, what about 7/7? It's got to be Black Ops, hasn't it? Let me tell you about my latest theory.... <goes on for two hours>

Face it: you've been rumbled, chum, just like you were when you were caught out with a second log in on some ghastrly 9/11 thread.
 
I'm sure you'd call him a conspiraloon and tell him to fuck off.

Funny, but I got involved in a debate with a Muslim guy on a flight going via Dubai earlier this year about 9/11 which he passionately believed to be a USG conspiracy and I called him up on it, and at the end of the day he admitted he had no evidence for it, had never really 'looked into it' and was just going along with what others in his Mosque had been saying - again, as recieved wisdom and 'well it's obvious they were involved isn't it?' thinking.

So no, I wouldn't call him a conspiraloon but if I had the time to talk to him I'd try and point out that simply believeing something to be so because it's 'obvious' or because all your mates say it is don't make it so.
 
Prole said:
Dey come for Rasta, you say nothing
Dey come for Muslims, you say nothing
Dem come for y'anti-globalist, you say nothing
They come for liberals, you say nothing
Dey come for y'obsessed conspiraloons and everyone says, "phew, thank fuck for that, because their constant refusal to release the evidence and their inability to produce a coherent argument backed with credible proof was becoming incredibly tedious "

We don't do lyrics in this forum, btw.
 
Prole said:
Asian Dub Foundation:

This is the round up. Who will speak for you?

Hammer coming down fast
Flag is flying full mast
Shield your eyes from the blast
You know it won't be the last
It's a round-up, it's a round up

Rifle butts through the door
Then you're kicked to the floor
Headlines screaming for more
Now you're a prisoner of war in the round-up
It's a round up

Dey come for Rasta, you say nothing
Dey come for Muslims, you say nothing
Dem come for y'anti-globalist, you say nothing
They come for liberals, you say nothing
Dem come for you, and who will speak for you?

Who will speak for you?

This is a countdown to the crackdown
Time to take a little trip downtown

Get in the lineup, there ain't no let up
This is a bona-fide government stick up (in the round-up)

From the fit up straight to the lock up
Through the touch-up and the drug up to the rough up

It's just a start up, so watch it speed up
It ain't enough to just put-up and shut-up (this is a round-up)

Isn't there a rule about posting variations of that old 'When they came for the socialists I did nothing' poem?

I like ADF but some of their stuff just reminds me of a Muslim take on the same shit that the surivivalist types/nation of Islam in the US often bang on about (and that in itself is funny...that black and white militant/separatist types all believe the same shit but for different reasons...)
 
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