7/7 Home Office 'narrative' leaked: Iraq led to July 7

[editor]

In short i agree with your sentiments here, but unfortunately that's not the way it works in the anglo-american media. If you're famous you get column inches, regardless of what you say.

Sure. But only a star-struck idiot uses this celeb-fluff to bolster up their case for a conspiracy.

 

[editor]

Isn't the connection obvious?

Between the events of the 7th July and the 'faked' phone calls from the 9/11 flights being brought up all over again? Not to me, no.

 

[exosculate]

Between the events of the 7th July and the 'faked' phone calls from the 9/11 flights being brought up all over again? Not to me, no.

No between the Iraq war and 7/7 happening.

 

[fela fan]

It actually started very brightly until the usual 9/11 bollocks - started by the usual suspects - dragged it down into yet another fact-free re-run.

Hey, c'mon, read what you're saying mate. It 'started' brightly??? How many pages did it get to before the 'starting' ceased and the guts of the thread began???

Does page 29 still belong to the 'starting' of the thread?

 

[editor]

Hey, c'mon, read what you're saying mate. It 'started' brightly??? How many pages did it get to before the 'starting' ceased and the guts of the thread began???

I'll bin it now and bin every similar new thread promptly if that's what you want.

 

[Lock&Light]

I'll bin it now and bin every similar new thread promptly if that's what you want.

That is what most of us want.

 

[fela fan]

I'll bin it now and bin every similar new thread promptly if that's what you want.

You mean you're going to do things according to what i want?

Wow, i feel privileged man! I never knew i had so much influence over the inner workings of urban75.

Cor, feel the power...

 

[fela fan]

That is what most of us want.

But WAIT A MINUTE. Wasn't urban set up as an alternative voice? To give a voice to the non-majority?

You want to bin subjects that belong to the minority do you L and L? Hey, freedom of speech rocks on man!

 

[Lock&Light]

But WAIT A MINUTE. Wasn't urban set up as an alternative voice? To give a voice to the non-majority?

You want to bin subjects that belong to the minority do you L and L? Hey, freedom of speech rocks on man!

Don't pretend that this conversation has only just begun. As you well know, it is the endlessly repeated conspiracy threads that I would want to see stifled, not alternative voices.

 

[editor]

B Hey, freedom of speech rocks on man!

Wish you'd make your mind up.
Would you like these threads to be binned quicker or not?

 

[Azrael23]

Endlessly repeated, yet constantly ignored.

Also I think you`ll find I talk more about "the agenda" than I do about conspiracy theories...

Anyone who wants to deny increasing authoritarianism and a move towards imperialism is being carried out in the name of "The War on Terror" is blind.

 

[sparticus]

That helps to illustrate how much damage conspirloons have done. The general populace is beginning to believe that authority can't be trusted.

As if that wasn't obvious even before Ceasar wrote his memoirs.

I think you give us too much credit. Sure people challenging the official truth of 9/11 and 7/7 have played their part in undermining public trust in authority, but so does the whole catelogue of other deceptions that are a matter of record.

WMD lies
Downing Street Dossier lies
Kuwaiti baby in incubators lies
Niger urananium lies
De menezes lies

and so on and so on..............

People having a lack of trust in authority when they are clearly not deserving of such trust is not 'damage', it is encouraging. Or perhaps you would prefer we all blindly trust authority regardless of its trustworthiness.

It is not the conspiraloons who undermine trust, it is the lying bastards in authority that keep lying to us, ffs

 

[scalyboy]

Don't pretend that this conversation has only just begun. As you well know, it is the endlessly repeated conspiracy threads that I would want to see stifled, not alternative voices.

Well they are presenting an alternative view. Whether or not I agree with them (mostly I don't) I find them interesting to read. I don't see the problem - the abuse AFAICT comes from the anti-conspiracy peeps not the pros. Unless there is overt offensive material (eg antisemitic Protocols-type stuff)or unless other threads become hijacked (as arguably this one has) - why is it so unacceptable?

Perhaps there could be 'official' 9/11 and 7th July conspiracy threads to which the Ed could move posts/threads like the above, rather than binning them?

 

[Lock&Light]

I think you give us too much credit.

No I don't. I was taking the piss.

 

[TAE]

Well they are presenting an alternative view. Whether or not I agree with them (mostly I don't) I find them interesting to read. I don't see the problem - the abuse AFAICT comes from the anti-conspiracy peeps not the pros. Unless there is overt offensive material (eg antisemitic Protocols-type stuff)or unless other threads become hijacked (as arguably this one has) - why is it so unacceptable?

Perhaps there could be 'official' 9/11 and 7th July conspiracy threads to which the Ed could move posts/threads like the above, rather than binning them?

I don't think the editor would have a problem with them if they were not based on guesswork, nit picking, and defamation.

 

[editor]

Unless there is overt offensive material (eg antisemitic Protocols-type stuff)...

More often than not, the two are inexorably intertwined once you scratch past the surface (see earlier posts revealing the true nature of Jazzz's 'forensic pathologist' who is now part of the '9/11 science panel '- or whatever inflated name it is they've dreamt up for themselves).

The bottom line is that these forums were set up for discussion and debate and aren't here to be abused and hijacked by a handful of utterly obsessed conspiracy fans who just keep on endlessly repeating the same thing without adding anything new of any significance.

 

[Jazzz]

As this thread was about 7/7, I've started a thread in WP to answer questions about phone calls and other 9/11 matters.

 

[editor]

As this thread was about 7/7, I've started a thread in WP to answer questions about phone calls and other 9/11 matters.

And if it ends up endlessly repeating the same thing without adding anything new of any significance, it'll be binned.

 

[Azrael23]

And if it ends up endlessly repeating the same thing without adding anything new of any significance, it'll be binned.

Why?

People don`t have to read through it if they are of your opinion.

Whats yoru definition of significance, i`ve posted plenty of things rarely repeated on this board...

I`m getting a bit tired of your petty justification for trying to shut up anyone who you disagree with. I suppose its ok to REPEAT AND REPEAT AND REPEAT all the usual pathetic lefty squabbles but when it comes to real events and real people....oh we have to stop repeating ourselves...

 

[fela fan]

Wish you'd make your mind up.
Would you like these threads to be binned quicker or not?

Well, let's say i'm a poker player.

I don't want to reveal my hand. It might help you...

 

[fela fan]

Don't pretend that this conversation has only just begun. As you well know, it is the endlessly repeated conspiracy threads that I would want to see stifled, not alternative voices.

So that's clear then, if you don't like a subject, you want the topic stifled.

At least we know your colours lock.

Not very pretty colours mind.

 

[Lock&Light]

So that's clear then, if you don't like a subject, you want the topic stifled.

That, as you know, is NOT what I said.

 

[fela fan]

That, as you know, is NOT what I said.

Alright then, if you don't like a particular subject... you want it stifled.

 

[Lock&Light]

Alright then, if you don't like a [/I]

Any chance of explaining what that means?

I see you've edited it now.

 

[Lock&Light]

Alright then, if you don't like a particular subject... you want it stifled.

I don't like a certain subject being endlessly discussed in a circular, repeated, non-scientific manner. It is that that I want to see stifled.

 

[Azrael23]

I don't like a certain subject being endlessly discussed in a circular, repeated, non-scientific manner. It is that that I want to see stifled.

How dare you insinuate I like to repeat myself


I`m getting a bit tired of your petty justification for trying to shut up anyone who you disagree with. I suppose its ok to REPEAT AND REPEAT AND REPEAT all the usual pathetic lefty squabbles but when it comes to real events and real people....oh we have to stop repeating ourselves...




BTW I`d like to discuss conciousness in a scientific manner....no wait....somethings amiss!

 

[Jazzz]

Do you still think the calls from the hijacked planes were faked, btw?

Anyway, about these phone calls....

o.k. I said I would answer this today.

I made a thread for it, so there would be no binning this one in one of your usual immature 'I can't handle it' fits.

But I see you have binned it already.

So, I can only consider the question retracted. Why ask if you don't actually want to hear an answer? Great discussion.

 

[editor]

So, I can only consider the question retracted. Why ask if you don't actually want to hear an answer? Great discussion.

Why not just answer the fucking question instead of this idiotic process of starting a new thread without bothering to hang around to either answer the question or make a point?

You're acting like a twat.

Now have you got any new evidence about these supposedly fake calls from the 9/11 planes or not?

 

[nightbreed]

Why not just answer the fucking question instead of this idiotic process of starting a new thread without bothering to hang around to either answer the question or make a point?

You're acting like a twat.

Now have you got any new evidence about these supposedly fake calls from the 9/11 planes or not?

Christ, this is going on!!
Look, NO he hasnt got an answer. It is just a conspiracy theory. The problem is it is just as much believable as the government inspired WMD theory ie no basis , apart from in the mind of its promoter, ie Blair.

 

[scalyboy]

Why not just answer the fucking question instead of this idiotic process of starting a new thread without bothering to hang around to either answer the question or make a point?

You're acting like a twat.

Now have you got any new evidence about these supposedly fake calls from the 9/11 planes or not?

Maybe Jazzz started a new thread in response to my suggestion of a dedicated on-topic 9/11 thread - has it been binned?

I don't believe the phone calls were faked - even though it has been said that mobiles don't work at such altitudes, it doesn't make sense that those people weren't on board the planes. What happened to them if they weren't on the planes? Where did they go?

However I would be interested in hearing any evidence to the contrary, why not? It's not that I expect this to be proved in this particular case, its more the principal of keeping communication lines open, and not stifling discussion, in case of future 'conspiracy theories' on other subjects yet to come that may bear more fruit...

Still Ed, its your board, do as you think fit... just my two-pennies-worth.