Democratic? No public enquiry on the 7/7 bombings.
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pk
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Jazzz said:
Don't look for me to take your side, trust me, Laptop speaks more sense than you ever have.
Have a Happy Xmas anyway.
Shame you weren't able to provide any evidence for your belief that 7/7 was an inside government job though.
Such a shame. Not exactly a surprise though...
Larry O'Hara
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pk said:
while I wouldn't use that phrase as such, there are enough unanswered questions about the effective license he was given to plant his last bomb to illustrate that the secret state (MI5/Special Branch), and other named police/journalists/flunkeys have serious questions to answer still concerning that case, yes. As you will find has been discussed on U75 before, a number of times. The evasive answers from police apologists only serve to underscore how salient those questions still are.
pk said:
Still within your 50 years you gave me earlier. And the argument surely has nothing to do with whether i could name one or more such incidents, rather whether such incidents have actually happened or not.
You have been shown that they have, and it's irrelevant to the debate here who actually provides you with the information.
Were not british governments involved in 'shady' events in the IRA years?
My stand on these london bombs is that i'm awaiting evidence from a court as to what happened. Anything is possible. Nothing has been proven. I"m concerned if brainwashed britons are bombing their fellow citizens, and the same goes for the state doing likewise. I think it's more likely to be the former, but i don't know yet.
pk said:
Well, you go on about other posters, yet none of them profess such levels of certainty as yo do here. Without any evidence, you are certain. Wow.
Those who know already don't listen any more. But you've already said that by admitting some threads you don't read, but just post on.
fela fan said:
There is great deal of evidence to show that fundementalist cunts were the perpetrators.
There is no evidence to show that the government was behind the atrocity.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
fela fan said:
You're utterly wrong there - most people on here are very firmly of that opinion.
editor said:
I never was due to come out with anything. You imposed your own conditions, both time and place, so that's nothing to do with me. I had nothing to prove, nor provide. So thinking about that is a hang-up that you have, nothing to do with me.
I shall remind you, i talked about secret actions by governments of different countries over a long period of time: we call that 'history'.
You then arbitrarily changed that into one place only in just the last five years, although you were generous in doubling that.
Don't chuck your limiting factors onto me simulataneously making out that i don't come up with answers coz i can't. Keep to the point in hand please, stop changing it.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Pk said that he was sure the 7/7 bombing were carried out by Islamic fundamentalists and that the government had no role in it - you said that no other posters "profess such levels of certainty as yo do here", i replied that there are, in fact, many many posters who do just that as thread after thread has shown.fela fan said:
dylanredefined
Not a house elf a tiger
Well no one seems to have come up with a good reson for the government
to blow up tube trains . Fundementalists reasons Iraq , Afganistian because the government supports saudi royal family .There were women on the train
not in a burkha and not accompained by husband or male relative so they deserved to die .Some of the victims werent muslim so all kaffirs should die
and the muslims who died werent good enough muslims so they deserved it etc,etc,etc,etc . Misguided fools who twisted religion to give them an excuse to indulge in a death wish .
to blow up tube trains . Fundementalists reasons Iraq , Afganistian because the government supports saudi royal family .There were women on the train
not in a burkha and not accompained by husband or male relative so they deserved to die .Some of the victims werent muslim so all kaffirs should die
and the muslims who died werent good enough muslims so they deserved it etc,etc,etc,etc . Misguided fools who twisted religion to give them an excuse to indulge in a death wish .
lostexpectation
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British spy/diplomats kidnapping Pakistani's in Greece
The investigation will now focus on a recent article appearing in the "To Proto Thema" weekly newspaper that listed the names of the agents who allegedly carried out the abductions and interrogations,
Proto Thema named the British official as the MI6 station chief in Athens. It said that he and a second, unnamed, British agent took part in the interrogation of some suspects, who said that they were hooded and held in secret. One of the migrant workers claims to have had a gun forced into his mouth.
According to one of the two lawyers representing the group, however, the Pakistani Embassy had been informed of the abductions on the very next day after they occurred and had done nothing, while putting pressure on the victims not to report the incident to the authorities.
Seven of the 28 Pakistanis have testified before an investigating magistrate that unidentified Greek and British men forced their way into their homes in four Athens suburbs after the bombings.
They said they were freed days later, dumped blindfolded in the city centre in the middle of the night.
These included the MI6 station chief in Serbia, who was forced to leave after a campaign against him involving the publication of his photograph and calling card on the cover of a Serbian magazine.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/mai...ce27.xml&sSheet=/news/2005/12/27/ixworld.html
http://today.reuters.com/News/CrisesArticle.aspx?storyId=L14761447
Ah those silly spy people and there shenanigans, we bomb them, they bomb us they kidnap us we kidnap them.
The investigation will now focus on a recent article appearing in the "To Proto Thema" weekly newspaper that listed the names of the agents who allegedly carried out the abductions and interrogations,
Proto Thema named the British official as the MI6 station chief in Athens. It said that he and a second, unnamed, British agent took part in the interrogation of some suspects, who said that they were hooded and held in secret. One of the migrant workers claims to have had a gun forced into his mouth.
According to one of the two lawyers representing the group, however, the Pakistani Embassy had been informed of the abductions on the very next day after they occurred and had done nothing, while putting pressure on the victims not to report the incident to the authorities.
Seven of the 28 Pakistanis have testified before an investigating magistrate that unidentified Greek and British men forced their way into their homes in four Athens suburbs after the bombings.
They said they were freed days later, dumped blindfolded in the city centre in the middle of the night.
These included the MI6 station chief in Serbia, who was forced to leave after a campaign against him involving the publication of his photograph and calling card on the cover of a Serbian magazine.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/mai...ce27.xml&sSheet=/news/2005/12/27/ixworld.html
http://today.reuters.com/News/CrisesArticle.aspx?storyId=L14761447
Ah those silly spy people and there shenanigans, we bomb them, they bomb us they kidnap us we kidnap them.
Bob_the_lost
Elsewhere
Aha! So it's Mi6 that did it!
WTF is the point of that little C&P?
WTF is the point of that little C&P?
lostexpectation said:
What are you getting at? What's your speculative possibility, from this?
dylanredefined
Not a house elf a tiger
Being nasty to foreigners thats the whole point of mi 6 isnt it ? Pity it wasent
the right ones . Dosen't explain why the government would want to blow up the tube any one going to post a reason why the government would do this ?
Must be simpler than finding evidence or did the ailens wipe your brains ?
the right ones . Dosen't explain why the government would want to blow up the tube any one going to post a reason why the government would do this ?
Must be simpler than finding evidence or did the ailens wipe your brains ?
brixtonvilla
should be Oslovilla, really
Misdirection onto a new piece of "evidence". Classic conspiraloon's trick, innit?
Larry O'Hara said:
I still have yet to see any persuasive evidence that there was a conspiricy over 07/07, but looking at the evidence of state involvement (or blind eye turning) over terrorist operations dating back to the Angry Brigade and Clockwork Orange, no one should rule the possibility out. The most likely explanation, IF a conspiricy of some kind existed is that some group within the securocracy, acting to its own agenda, knew that something was planned and let it run and if you think that any public enquiry is going to get to the bottom of that, you are living in cloud cockoo land. You are dealing with people to whom covering your arse is the first rule of business.
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