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The 7/7 Report

nino_savatte said:
They get into a right strop if you tell them Rense and Jones are a pair of barking mad lunatics.:D
I agree that there are a lot of lunatics on both sides. (BTW Bush, Rumsfeld, Cheney, Blair et al strike me as insane.)

They tend to be the people who think they know what happened or have alternative theories. I just ask Release the Evidence. I also think it is sane in the light ofWMD, Kelly etc to question everything. If we're being told the truth, then there's nothing to fear by releasing the evidence.
 
Prole said:

It's not obvious what gender you are, so "he" was fairly appropriate under the circumstances, since the majority of your fellow travellers are of the male persuasion.

Not that it matters in the grand scheme of things; it would seem your truth doesn't square with the Truth and that only certain sites and persons are capable of telling the 'truth'. That is to say, if it is critical of Rense, Jones or Vialls then it is part of a 'government plot' to control information. But given the quantity of information available, much of it is useless or meaningless, this includes the websites of Jones et al.
 
Blagsta said:
Faking stuff in Photoshop is piece of piss! Why the hell would anyone fake it so badly? It makes no sense.
What makes no sense is saying that evidence something is fake is actually evidence that it is genuine. This is the kind of perverse logic one gets programmed into.
 
Prole said:
I agree that there are a lot of lunatics on both sides. (BTW Bush, Rumsfeld, Cheney, Blair et al strike me as insane.)

They tend to be the people who think they know what happened or have alternative theories. I just ask Release the Evidence. I also think it is sane in the light ofWMD, Kelly etc to question everything. If we're being told the truth, then there's nothing to fear by releasing the evidence.

You're deflecting: the motives of Rumsfeld, Cheney et al, are not in dispute. What is in dispute is the quality of the information on certain websites. Much of it is produced in the same fashion as the 'news' stories of the News of the World, while there may be a particle of truth contained in the message, much of it is bulk filler...like what you find in processed foods.
 
scalyboy said:
But if the 4 figures were crudely superimposed onto the background, isn't the added detail of their reflections in the glass/perspex quite a sophisticated one, and not what one might expect from a rush job?
Can you see what's happened to the reflection of Khan's white cap scalyboy?
 
Badger Kitten said:
Prole, is this book an inspiration to you?

very telling if so...reads like Vorgon poetyand made me laugh out loud :D
I use my real name but nice try BK. I think there's also a pretty crap poet who is also nothing to do with me. Seems like some things can be coincidence.
 
as an aside...

Prole, you still haven't told me if you are a fan of Charlette Boyette -Compo's deathless prose. Or even if you are the Vogon scribbler herself?


sample: The anti-hero as Ms Boyett-Compo refers to him is Captain Kamerone Cree, the Prime Reaper, and one of the most feared beings in this futuristic world.

Bridget Dunne is a worker in the Behavioural Modification unit and part of a resistance movement against the Rysalian Empire and she knows that her role in the resistance is to bring Cree over to their side.

When Cree is betrayed by an unknown person and sent without a trial to Be-Mod 9 the resistance use this time to bring him over to their side.

While undergoing the treatment Cree is forced to suffer his own death in numerous ways and numerous times. A part human and part animal the shapeshifter finds that it is the human part of his being that the Be-Mod unit prey on as they proceed to torture him day after day...<snip>



Blimey. Sci fi angst, dodgy torture scenes and state brainwashing resisted by truthseekers, eh? Conspira-tastic. And bonkers.
 
Blagsta said:
Translation = "I have no evidence for what I believe, but I just know I'm right"
That sounds more like the people who believe the official version than those like me that question the evidence.
 
nino_savatte said:
Hammer-nail-head: conspiraloons crap on about the "truth" but when they are confronted with it they make all kinds of excuses why they cannot accept it.
So you know the truth then? Please tell. because sure as anything I've seen nothing yet to convince me.
 
Jazzz said:
Can you see what's happened to the reflection of Khan's white cap scalyboy?
Yeah, good point. And where's Khan's white cap in the video in which he supposedly boasts of the atrocity, eh? Nowhere!

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No way did he and his Islamonut mates bomb London! They were just set up by the bastard pixies.
 
nino_savatte said:
It's not obvious what gender you are, so "he" was fairly appropriate under the circumstances, since the majority of your fellow travellers are of the male persuasion.

Not that it matters in the grand scheme of things; it would seem your truth doesn't square with the Truth and that only certain sites and persons are capable of telling the 'truth'. That is to say, if it is critical of Rense, Jones or Vialls then it is part of a 'government plot' to control information. But given the quantity of information available, much of it is useless or meaningless, this includes the websites of Jones et al.

It does strike me how much some of you like to lump people together into one homogenous whole. I for one know of Jones slightly and the other two ?
 
Jazzz said:
Can you see what's happened to the reflection of Khan's white cap scalyboy?

Its darkened glass, it makes things appear a different colour, the half of the window where you see the greyed reflection is the half which has more light shining through it, the ticket machine is clearer because there is less light pollution on the reflection, its also more intensely white to begin with.
There probably are puddles on the ground but because the concrete underneath is cream and looks very flat you can`t see them in a blurrish cctv photo. The puddles on the slightly rugged black asphalt however will stand out more because they as you will notice next time it rains, wet asphalt appears to shimmer. :)

I know all is not well with 7/7 but I think your looking in the wrong places.

There are more concrete things like the rerouting of the bus, cctv dodginess in the week beforehand on the bus etc.
 
Prole said:
That sounds more like the people who believe the official version than those like me that question the evidence.

bullshit. I trust the govtg not one iota but it is indisputable that four guys got themselve involved in rreligious extremism, built bombs and set them off. There was a huge cock up by the Sec Servs over this and thhe ultimate cause of the tragedy ws havnign a prime minister who didn't have the confidence to say No to the Americans like Wilson and Atlee.

It is pretty obvious what happened - four religious nutters set off bombs. Anything else is just pointless lizrdry.
 
nino_savatte said:
You're deflecting: the motives of Rumsfeld, Cheney et al, are not in dispute. What is in dispute is the quality of the information on certain websites. Much of it is produced in the same fashion as the 'news' stories of the News of the World, while there may be a particle of truth contained in the message, much of it is bulk filler...like what you find in processed foods.
I think there are a lot of websites/individuals that give those who question official orthodoxy a bad name. Thankfully I have no connection to any of them. The July 7th truth campaign is free of any 'conspiracy' theories, it just calls for truth and justice and examines the evidence. I think we should all be grateful than someone bothers, whether you agree with the campaign or not. After all we only want to know the truth, whatever that may turn out to be.
 
KeyboardJockey said:
bullshit. I trust the govtg not one iota but it is indisputable that four guys got themselve involved in rreligious extremism, built bombs and set them off. There was a huge cock up by the Sec Servs over this and thhe ultimate cause of the tragedy ws havnign a prime minister who didn't have the confidence to say No to the Americans like Wilson and Atlee.

It is pretty obvious what happened - four religious nutters set off bombs. Anything else is just pointless lizrdry.
Perhaps you are right, after all that is the official line. On the other hand I can't make those connections as I haven't seen enough evidence to prove this theory.
 
Prole said:
Perhaps you are right, after all that is the official line. On the other hand I can't make those connections as I haven't seen enough evidence to prove this theory.

What do you want...? Acual CCTV footage of them blowing themselves up...? But no... You'd just say its faked. I'm starting to think its a pity you weren't there to see for yourself.

Anyone one of the surviviors, and all of the victims are better you...!
 
There are definitely some serious questions, and with more emerging evidence as we speak that our govt had proven prior knowledge, the dissent can only get louder.

Although they usually manage to respond to their mistakes by calling for bigger budgets....:rolleyes:
 
jæd said:
What do you want...? Acual CCTV footage of them blowing themselves up...? But no... You'd just say its faked. I'm starting to think its a pity you weren't there to see for yourself.

Well we`d have actual CCTV footage if the CCTV on the 30 Bus hadn`t been tampered with. :)
 
Badger Kitten said:
Prole, you still haven't told me if you are a fan of Charlette Boyette -Compo's deathless prose. Or even if you are the Vogon scribbler herself?


sample: The anti-hero as Ms Boyett-Compo refers to him is Captain Kamerone Cree, the Prime Reaper, and one of the most feared beings in this futuristic world.

Bridget Dunne is a worker in the Behavioural Modification unit and part of a resistance movement against the Rysalian Empire and she knows that her role in the resistance is to bring Cree over to their side.

When Cree is betrayed by an unknown person and sent without a trial to Be-Mod 9 the resistance use this time to bring him over to their side.

While undergoing the treatment Cree is forced to suffer his own death in numerous ways and numerous times. A part human and part animal the shapeshifter finds that it is the human part of his being that the Be-Mod unit prey on as they proceed to torture him day after day...<snip>



Blimey. Sci fi angst, dodgy torture scenes and state brainwashing resisted by truthseekers, eh? Conspira-tastic. And bonkers.
I suppose that's what you get with sci-fi, but if you were looking for an origin of some pseudonym BK you are way off the mark. I have used my real name, it was printed on a letter in my local paper, the CNJ, one week after these events, and I have no need to hide my identity. I don't much like sci-fi myself. Although the last two series of Dr Who are brilliant. The cybermen reminded me of the police in Notting Hill after 21/7.
 
KeyboardJockey said:
bullshit. I trust the govtg not one iota but it is indisputable that four guys got themselve involved in rreligious extremism, built bombs and set them off. There was a huge cock up by the Sec Servs over this and thhe ultimate cause of the tragedy ws havnign a prime minister who didn't have the confidence to say No to the Americans like Wilson and Atlee.

It is pretty obvious what happened - four religious nutters set off bombs. Anything else is just pointless lizrdry.

There are people that would argue that the US is still puppeteered from London. I don`t mean by Blair either.

You know the City of London?
 
jæd said:
What do you want...? Acual CCTV footage of them blowing themselves up...? But no... You'd just say its faked. I'm starting to think its a pity you weren't there to see for yourself.

Anyone one of the surviviors, and all of the victims are better you...!
No of course not. Just a similar sequence from Luton and KX that we have been shown from 28/6 and perhaps the one the police say was the eureka moment from KX concourse. They refer to quite a few in the official report, why aren't they released?
 
Prole said:
If we're being told the truth, then there's nothing to fear by releasing the evidence.
And in the meantime, you'll just do your bit to get in the way of the truth by making idiotic, evidence-free claims on subjects you know precisely fuck all about ("Photoshopped" images), act like a devious politician trying to deny her own words, post up a load of ridiculous guff about puddles and plastic bags and then wrap it all up by claiming that the bombers didn't travel by car at all because, err, you don't think that three people would fit in a capacious car.

You're a joke. A deluded, obsessional conspiraloon that hasn't the slightest interest in discovering the truth.
 
Azrael23 said:
There are definitely some serious questions, and with more emerging evidence as we speak that our govt had proven prior knowledge, the dissent can only get louder.
Talking of questions, are you going to answer mine concerning your earlier claims?
 
editor said:
You're a joke. A deluded, obsessional conspiraloon that hasn't the slightest interest in discovering the truth.

Why's she still allowed to post here then...? :confused:
 
Prole said:
No of course not. Just a similar sequence from Luton and KX that we have been shown from 28/6 and perhaps the one the police say was the eureka moment from KX concourse. They refer to quite a few in the official report, why aren't they released?

What happened in June last year then...? :confused: Was something that was better covered up than in July... :rolleyes:
 
Prole said:
Luton2861.jpg

OK maybe one of you photoshop/vhs experts could cast a beady eye over this image and tell me if bars appear through bodies. Also I'd like to know what the numbers along the right hand side might be.

The mess at the bottom is definitely severe head-switching, which is a VHS artifact caused by repeated re-recording of the tape.
 
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