Other way round on that last bit.
Er...doesn't that say that the workerists/autonomists (the latter didn't develop until much later btw) developed an analysis - one that emphasied the role of reproduction in the total circuit of capital, and on a class basis - that then influenced wider feminism, including marxist-feminism (not a term i have any time for as it goes) - as i suggested?
The feminist texts and writers you mention were not separate from the workerists - they were a product of it and them! They weren't influenced by the workerists, they were the workerists as much as Tronti or Negri or anyone. That's my point here. And workers autonomy and autonomism are different things with huge differences, the latter describing a wide range of practices and groupings in the 76-79 period.
"Cock juggling thunder cunt"
Anyhow.
There's an awful lot of "moral outrage" at the SWP mixed in with the political criticisms of how they've ended up in the position they're in.
And rightly so.
Some of this has led to speculation about "no platforming" the SWP, and has manifested itself in the heckling documented above and some posters' support for it. This seems largely based upon the moral outrage rather than anything else and sees terms like "rape apologists" being chucked around.
My point is that if the SWP are so far beyond the pale because of their "rape apologism" and misogyny that it's correct to disrupt rallies etc. then heckling them doesn't seem a proportionate response, it seems a pretty petty and pointless tactic.
Look at the video above. The stewards come across terribly, confirming people's accusations to a point. But the hecklers don't come out of It looking much better.
It's all so farcical and saddening.
Sorry Red Cat, wasn't being rude, just too busy admiring the view. I think the honest answer is the party couldn't (or thought it couldn't) afford to lose another cc member so soon after the Counterfire split and the people who dealt with this case just had too much political stake in the outcome to be completely objective. Stack was and decided there was a case to answer. But he was a minority of one. Then once the decision was made everything else had to follow. If there's one thing this tradition does well its defend a decision once made (I like to think that explains much of my thinking on this). What made things so much worse was the fact that there was an opposition waiting in the wings, looking for a chance to strike - even though they may not have been conscious of their own need to break at an earlier stage- and the fight against that project has given people like me an excuse not to admit what was blatantly obvious about this case from the word go. Namely that the group of people who judged it never should have. And that is no slight on them. It is not an inch of a concession to the crazy argument that the SWP is a sexist organisation. That notion is just mad. But pure and simple, the people deciding if MS had done wrong should never have been some of his closest colleagues.
I honestly think it could tough it out without turning into a sectarian rump (leave aside for a moment the tonnes of people on here and elsewhere who think its been that for several decades who would celebrate the final collapse). There is a lot of resilience in this set of politics and it wouldn't take much of a shift in the class struggle to breath fresh life into the bones. But I think you're right about the people in it not being in much shape to make the most of opportunities ahead. I think this mess and living with it is debilitating and draining for all but the most unthinking loyalist (there are some of them but I'd say they were always an absolutely tiny percentage). Squaring the circle of the handling of the delta case quite simply messes with your head, it has done for me for the last few months and I'm not even having to do it as a member who has to try and carry on with people around them as if everything is ok. It's not ok and in their heart of hearts most people still in the party know that. They can't be half as effective as socialists with that sort of baggage weighing them down. But. The other side of the coin is that defending the indefensible doesn't turn you overnight into something you're not and the majority of those doing it are still the same incredibly decent, militant haters of the system and all it's crap that they were the day before they learnt of this debacle and took a side. Maybe I'm a clueless optimist and the next few months will be harsh but I honestly believe a year from now the SWP will continue to be a major force for good in the world AND it's members will all be able to look themselves in the mirror and not have to internally say "yes.....but".
Then stop posting telling everyone how little you care about it etc and fuck off.
