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I've never claimed a Syriza type formation is on the cards in the short term, or that it would represent some zenith of revolutionary form. :rolleyes:
 
let me get this right, the students who aren't in the group that doesn't exist, are pissed off that the non existant group didn't consult them?

It's all getting a bit "the vessel with the pestle has the brew that is poison, the chalice in the palace has the brew that is true".
 
It's all getting a bit "the vessel with the pestle has the brew that is poison, the chalice in the palace has the brew that is true".

No! They broke the chalice from the palace? The pellet with the poison's in the flagon with the dragon! The vessel with the pestle has the brew that is true.

I'm suprised at you VP.

Cheers - Louis MacNeice
 
No, I'm also interested in very ordinary mundane but nevertheless acute issues at community level, where a good % of our time is attacking the positions locally and nationally of the Labour leadership. I'm not at all arguing that its remotely likely that the left will sweep to power and transform Labour - but it is entirely possible that a clear socialist pole of attraction within the party can build support for an anti-austerity politics among people who vote Labour in the absence of anything better, because they hope that it can protect people a bit in comparison with the Tories.
 
No, I'm also interested in very ordinary mundane but nevertheless acute issues at community level, where a good % of our time is attacking the positions locally and nationally of the Labour leadership. I'm not at all arguing that its remotely likely that the left will sweep to power and transform Labour - but it is entirely possible that a clear socialist pole of attraction within the party can build support for an anti-austerity politics among people who vote Labour in the absence of anything better, because they hope that it can protect people a bit in comparison with the Tories.
i think what you mean here is that you're objectively helping the right of the labour party because you're trying to give people reasons to think labour is a socialist party: as there's no evidence of 'clear socialist poles of attraction' in the party doing anything for the electorate in the past it seems to me you're leading yourself and them up the garden path.
 
Well yes of course they are a state capitalist ruling class in waiting and the first thing they think of every day is how they can get an inch closer to the day they can line us all up against a wall and start living in their dachas.

Yes they do have an agenda. And if they didn't they'd deserve the sack.
Wrong again.
Is he?:rolleyes:

What about if the cc themselves have a larger agenda?
Which is? :rolleyes:
 
You've been noticebaly silent on this thread RMP3. Where's your usual "are the SWP finished yet?" comment?
 
You've been noticebaly silent on this thread RMP3. Where's your usual "are the SWP finished yet?" comment?

"Noticeably silent" is absolutely right. Usually everyone's "favourite" post-SWP Swappite would be in there lecturing and hectoring anyone who varied from the "party line" (all the while emphasising that he's not partisan and hasn't been a Swappite for years!), and generally making a putz of himself.
Here, though, almost as quiet as the grave. Perhaps he hasn't been reprogrammed by Swap-Central since the conference? ;)
 
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