Squeezed Middle Watch

[chilango]

It's just more "Waah I'm middle class but Capitalism appears to be mistaking me for a prole!"

When actually mostly it's a case of "Waah! I thought I was middle class but it turns out I'm actually a prole"

 

[xenon]

Mangan again! Furious with her stupid parents for not owning a million pound house http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2014/may/03/missed-out-on-housing-boom-lucy-mangan

I know it's supposed to be tongue in cheak but what a fucking snob. Catford, it's not for real people.

 

[seventh bullet]

When actually mostly it's a case of "Waah! I thought I was middle class but it turns out I'm actually a prole"

I think a lot won't think in those terms or arrive at that conclusion in the face of worsening conditions and standards of living. See the divisive crap about us poorer proles who have never had such illusions although certain aspirations which aren't necessarily a bad thing.

 

[Belushi]

Think you've got it tough?

“I make £120,000 but I can’t recall the last time we went out for dinner,”

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/...all-the-last-time-we-went-out-for-dinner.html

 

[Metal Malcolm]

I love the dismissive nature of the introduction. 'The rich are still rich, and the poor are used to economising, it's the middle that are suffering most'.

Of course, because poor people will always be poor, so taking their money away just keeps them poor, but us 'middle class' people (as if a £120k income is middle class) are the real victims.

 

[Idris2002]

I love the dismissive nature of the introduction. 'The rich are still rich, and the poor are used to economising, it's the middle that are suffering most'.

Of course, because poor people will always be poor, so taking their money away just keeps them poor, but us 'middle class' people (as if a £120k income is middle class) are the real victims.

Little man, what now?

 

[DotCommunist]

liked the moaning twat whose paying 45K a year for his kids schooling piping up.

 

[Idris2002]

liked the moaning twat whose paying 45K a year for his kids schooling piping up.

What sort of fuckery is this?

"“The boys are flexi-boarders, so they stay at school on various nights of the week,” says Jackson. “Annually it’s costing £45,000 after tax, which is a considerable outlay, but I’m happy to pay because I want them to have the best start.”

Flexi-boarders? Is this a joke?

 

[Dogsauce]

It's tough because you have to help your kids out with a deposit for their first house because prices are so high (um, prices that are high because of pricks that help their kids out with a deposit).

Thought the Telegraph was above Mail-style trolling, fucking hell.

 

[Citizen66]

the scariest part is that the super rich no longer need anyone or anything to become richer, just inside access to the financial systems where they can plug in a few figures then let the algorithms do the work.

They do need other people though. Not to become richer, but without others their ill gotten gains would be worthless.

 

[Citizen66]

It's fucking comic with a clown going around doing stuff that's not happening today. Grow up.

You mean judge, jury and executioner? They do if they think they'll get away with it. And then they do get away with it.

 

[weepiper]

'It's terribly hard, after I've paid the mortgage on my £350,000 house, the costs of running two cars and the £45,000 a year fees to send two children to private school, there's simply nothing left'.

Have you tried, er, not spending your 'reasonable income' (FUCK OOOFFFFFFFFF) on that stuff? You'll be amazed how much disposable income you have then.

 

[Thaw]

So, buying a bigger house is a sign that they are struggling?
I think 120k pa is still middle class but he's a bloody idiot shelling out 45k on school fees.

"This week we learn that a fifth of families are moving to bigger houses rather than downsizing when their children fly the nest – because parents fear their fledglings will boomerang straight back when they can’t afford homes of their own."

 

[Thaw]

120k is in top 5% of annual income. How big is the 'middle' supposed to be exactly?

 

[Citizen66]

120k is in top 5% of annual income. How big is the 'middle' supposed to be exactly?

Wealth (in terms of hoorah schools and a country pile etc) is global rather than local, don't forget.

Or do you think it's just posh English kids going to these places?

The middle are pissed that their privilege is waning and they have to send Tarquin to school with the proles. They probably argue that class doesn't exist.

 

[tbtommyb]

liked the moaning twat whose paying 45K a year for his kids schooling piping up.

It really annoys me when people somehow think you can discount school fees when talking about money. 'oh well it's not much after school fees, really'. Yeah, it wouldn't be much left if you spent £45k on champagne either. Yet they expect sympathy?

Also the inevitable follow-up 'I’m happy to pay because I want them to have the best start,' implying that poorer parents don't care about their kids as much, or aren't prepared to make sacrifices for their kids.

Plus the 'Even though we have a reasonable income we have had to economise ... never changing our cars' (note the plural) as if they have an entitlement to change cars every couple of years for no reason.

 

[treelover]

'It's terribly hard, after I've paid the mortgage on my £350,000 house, the costs of running two cars and the £45,000 a year fees to send two children to private school, there's simply nothing left'.

He really said that? incredible, then again, "the rich are different than us"

I won't read it but what do the comments say?

 

[ItWillNeverWork]

"Are You A Member Of The “Squeezed Middle” According To The Telegraph?"

 

[moochedit]

120k is in top 5% of annual income. How big is the 'middle' supposed to be exactly?

120k is "at the upper end of the Squeezed Middle" apparently Surely that article is a spoof?

 

[DotCommunist]

120k is "at the upper end of the Squeezed Middle" apparently Surely that article is a spoof?

nah, I saw a bit of research showing how the wealthy regularly grossly overestimate the average medium income. Not by 100s of pounds, but by tens of thousands

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

It's certainly a terrible state of affairs when after you've spent all your money, you don't have any left, isn't it?

 

[yield]

Middle classes will disappear in next 30 years warns Government adviser
Telegraph. 28 May 2014

The middle classes will die out within 30 years because of rising property prices, which will rob today's children of their dreams, an economist has warned.

David Boyle, a government adviser and fellow of the New Economics Foundation think tank, said that youngsters can no longer expect the same level of affluence as their parents.

Speaking at the Hay Festival he warned that Britain will be left with a "tiny elite and a huge sprawling proletariat" who have no chance of "clawing their way out of a hand-to-mouth existence".

((middles classes))

 

[treelover]

How much are the tickets for the Hay Festival?


and Glasto, Latitude, Bestival, etc.

 

[Belushi]

fuck working class kids dreams..

 

[Belushi]

I do like that the story is illustrated with a picture of a Waitrose

 

[yield]

I do like that the story is illustrated with a picture of a Waitrose

Free Waitrose coffee is a middle class birthright.

 

[Belushi]

Even though I started this thread I do feel quite ambiguous about it because the way things are going were all moving backwards and we're all getting fucked over by the elite. But where's the fucking solidarity? This article is a perfect example, the issue isn't that there will a huge sprawling proletariat living a hand to mouth existence; it's that the children of the middle classes are going to be part of it.

 

[yield]

To be fair Belushi I stupidly linked to a Telegraph article and they're pandering to their readership.

Even so I read it all kids aspirations, as in social mobility, will be limited not just middle class ones.

But where's the fucking solidarity?

Yes

 

[chilango]

An enlarged "sprawling proletariat" and a vastly reduced (and cut off) middle class helps our odds in the battle to come.

They're getting complacent if they're letting this happen.

Advantage, us.

 

[kebabking]

An enlarged "sprawling proletariat" and a vastly reduced (and cut off) middle class helps our odds in the battle to come.

They're getting complacent if they're letting this happen.

Advantage, us.

with respect, if they can screw the middle classes into being proles again, keeping the proles in their box is going to be childs play.