Socialist Equality Party??

[Squatticus]

It's just as well that your "support" for the "resistance" of various 'slamist and Baathist factions amounts, in practice, to diddly squat. Its just a daft Trotlet game played at a safe distance from the bombs and bullets.

So: how "active" is your opposition to them?

 

[Squatticus]

It's just as well that your "support" for the "resistance" of various 'slamist and Baathist factions amounts, in practice, to diddly squat. Its just a daft Trotlet game played at a safe distance from the bombs and bullets.

And why does my support for resistance to the occupation cause you so much concern, if it amounts to, as you describe it 'diddly squat'. It's a puzzle!

 

[JHE]

And why does my support for resistance to the occupation cause you so much concern, if it amounts to, as you describe it 'diddly squat'. It's a puzzle!

It would concern me a lot more, Diddly, if you really were helping 'slamists to commit atrocities. Thank Allah for the impotence of shouty Trot sects!

 

[Fullyplumped]

....Why do Trotlets only ever 'call for' military victory these days? Why don't you do any of the fighting, killing and dying that you 'call for'?

What an interesting question! Is there any history of political "revolutionaries" from the United Kingdom, say after the sixties, going beyond "calling for" victory to their preferred side and actually heading off and joining the fight?

There's the IRA and the INLA, some of who spouted Lenin, I think, but they were fundamentally nationalists. And we have the example of Islamists, but they go off and do it because God told them to do so, and because they're not allowed to chase girls (or boys).

 

[Fullyplumped]

The WRP were a sight to behold on those People's Marches for Jobs in the early 1980s, marching in a large tight-knit group, chanting in unison, each with their own personal red flag. Seeing them made you feel like you were in one of those countries where things happen and the revolutionaries don't just go home for their tea.

I wouldn't like to be in a country where you couldn't go home for your tea after a hard day's shouting.

 

[JHE]

Yes, Irish Republicanism is the one case I can think of, but the left-wing British people who actually did nasty terrorist stuff for Irish Republicanism were not exactly Trotlets. They were either in Red Action or influenced by the RCG. Both Red Action and the RCG were groups that had (in their different ways) moved away from Trottery.

There were also the rather tame Anarchist-ish terrorists of the Angry Brigade.

 

[chilango]

They were either in Red Action or influenced by the RCG. Both Red Action and the RCG were groups that had (in their different ways) moved away from Trottery.

RCG? What RCG influenced peeps did bombings? I've not heard that one before...

 

[JHE]

RCG? What RCG influenced peeps did bombings? I've not heard that one before...

Eamon Collins, who later became an agent of the Briddish State, claims in this memoirs ('Killing Rage') that he was influenced by the Briddish RCG into seeing the IRA's armed struggle as revolutionary.

 

[Proper Tidy]

It really doesn't help any US policy in Iraq to have mass murder and mayhem, you silly sausage. The US wants a stable, war-free Iraq, from which the US can withdraw with as little ignominy as possible. They don't want inter-communal slaughter.

Are you sure about that?

Me thinks there are a lot of US corporate interests with a vested interest in continued conflict and disasters.

 

[Blagsta]

What an interesting question! Is there any history of political "revolutionaries" from the United Kingdom, say after the sixties, going beyond "calling for" victory to their preferred side and actually heading off and joining the fight?

There's the IRA and the INLA, some of who spouted Lenin, I think, but they were fundamentally nationalists. And we have the example of Islamists, but they go off and do it because God told them to do so, and because they're not allowed to chase girls (or boys).

iirc, 2 members of Red Action joined the IRA

 

[Blagsta]

Yes, Irish Republicanism is the one case I can think of, but the left-wing British people who actually did nasty terrorist stuff for Irish Republicanism were not exactly Trotlets. They were either in Red Action or influenced by the RCG. Both Red Action and the RCG were groups that had (in their different ways) moved away from Trottery.

There were also the rather tame Anarchist-ish terrorists of the Angry Brigade.

note to self: read rest of thread before replying

 

[taffboy gwyrdd]

Nice debating technique: if I don't support the US, I must support sectarian murder

No, you appear to support sectarian murder because you said "victory to Saddam" was the "correct line". Post invasion the Baathists were one of many factions and therefore sectarian. Admit it, "Victory to Saddam" is a clunky and highly offensive line. Like many CIA proteges he was a vile mass murderer.

 

[audiotech]

What an interesting question! Is there any history of political "revolutionaries" from the United Kingdom, say after the sixties, going beyond "calling for" victory to their preferred side and actually heading off and joining the fight?

I knew one trot who went off and joined the PLO. Wonder what happened to him? Then there were a few who went to Nicaragua, usually coffee bean picking. Then there were those who went to Greece during the revolt against the colonels there in the mid seventies. I seem to recall a planeload of WRP members reportedly turning up.