krtek a houby
Merry Xmas!
Nicely put
Sleaford Mods
- Thread starter Blagsta
- Start date
Nicely put
londonkid
Well-Known Member
Love it
krtek a houby
Merry Xmas!
No thanks
This thread has made me check out their latest album. I think it’s their latest - UK Grim?
I quite like it. Not sure how folk are saying it’s non political. It bangs on about the Tories and Aristocracy a bit, just like posters on here do.
I quite like it. Not sure how folk are saying it’s non political. It bangs on about the Tories and Aristocracy a bit, just like posters on here do.
Johnny Vodka
The Abominable Scotsman
That's the thing - they are political. There's actually a great clip somewhere of Jason making a face or something when asked about Starmer. The question is, as a left leaning political band, why were they so quiet on this/get so upset about the Palestinian flag?
Dunno. But the politics in their music appears to be centred on the British working class rather than geo-politics. Paradoxically, parts of the British left appear to be interested in the exact opposite of that. Much more likely to join a Palestine protest than for some unfortunate fucker that lives round the corner.
mojo pixy
...שלא נמצא בשמאל
I've just spent half an hour reading the lyrics of the songs on that album. Here's a link. Let us know if you find anything political.
But what’s gone on, what can I see?
You're all getting mugged by the aristocracy
But what's gone on, what can I see?
You’re all getting mugged by the right wing beast, yeah
That's about as good as it gets, and it's pretty rubbish tbh
"You're all..." (but not us we're better than you obvs)
krtek a houby
Merry Xmas!
Surely nothing wrong with showing a bit of international solidarity against a genocide?
Those lyrics aren't political?
Of course. But no war except the class war.
mojo pixy
...שלא נמצא בשמאל
About as political as Robbie Rotten for me but ymmv
Fozzie Bear
Well-Known Member
Jason is at his best as social observer. It gets harder to do that when your main job is being “a musician.”
Fozzie Bear
Well-Known Member
All music is political.
Johnny Vodka
The Abominable Scotsman
My favourite track by them (actually only one of the few tracks I'm really drawn in by) is Mork n Mindy. Just describes what a shit place Britain can be for some people without pointing fingers, which IMO is political.
mojo pixy
...שלא נמצא בשמאל
The opposite, these days 99% of music (beyond various underground scenes) is resolutely apolitical. That Sleaford Mods' material even resembles 'political' (which I admit, it does) is testament to how used we are to the utter vacuousness in most of our music.
Fozzie Bear
Well-Known Member
Nah. Music about love, partying, sitting in a room is political.
Asking the question “what are the politics of this music?” is always better than dividing music into political or apolitical.
Yeah but are overtly political bands great? I think it worked for the Blaggers and some punk stuff but it can all end up as a bit of a whinge set to guitars. I'd rather get that from pamphlets than with a tune.
Fozzie Bear
Well-Known Member
It’s why I hate that thread on “subversive music” which appears to be about blokes ranting on about stuff.
Fozzie Bear
Well-Known Member
Like all this stuff is way more interesting than a guy wanging on about war and poverty being bad:
mojo pixy
...שלא נמצא בשמאל
How?
It's a great question, but pretty meaningless if the answer is nearly always 'sod all'. Which it is.
I guess the past is much rosier than the present.Like all this stuff is way more interesting than a guy wanging on about war and poverty being bad:
Maybe there's a future worth singing about, I don't know.
mojo pixy
...שלא נמצא בשמאל
I wish more women would rant on about stuff too tbh
mojo pixy
...שלא נמצא בשמאל
Yeah as opposed to SM who don't use guitars
I guess folk see music as a form of escapism?
mojo pixy
...שלא נמצא בשמאל
And there it is: don't bother singing about that, people just don't want to hear it. They just wanna chill and have a good time.
That was one of the main things that pushed me towards quitting playing live, before becoming a parent anyway sealed the deal. Who the fuck wants to be some bloke ranting on about stuff? Just stick it on a pamphlet and leave the saturday night drinkers in peace
I haven't said do or don't do anything. I was speculating on what audiences may want from their music.And there it is: don't bother singing about that, people just don't want to hear it. They just wanna chill and have a good time.
That was one of the main things that pushed me towards quitting playing live, before becoming a parent anyway sealed the deal. Who the fuck wants to be some bloke ranting on about stuff? Just stick it on a pamphlet and leave the saturday night drinkers in peace
Fozzie Bear
Well-Known Member
And there you have it. Nothing political about people coming together to have a good time together at the weekend.
They need to be lectured instead. The fools.
They need to be lectured instead. The fools.
mojo pixy
...שלא נמצא בשמאל
I was outlining if not directly quoting what I was told explicitly.
No its not that. It's just great to hear someone singing something I feel but can't hear anybody in my world saying. It makes me feel less alone and maybe even more motivated to activism. It's about expressing solidarity, expressing rebellion, offering a hand in the dark, saying: this is shit, here's why, maybe you feel the same.
Lecturing lol. Good one.
Numbers
an ting!
I don’t really follow that thread but have posted on it about Akala and his FITB sessions. GQ: would you consider him political?
Fozzie Bear
Well-Known Member
If it’s music it’s political. I’m not the one dividing music into political and not political.
I’m not having a go at you mojo pixy but I do genuinely think all kinds of music can be revolutionary and progressive and build solidarity. And that other music can be regressive and make people feel less empowered or more empowered in terrible ways.
Similar threads
