Should the fox hunting ban be lifted?

[Pickman's model]

I'm not wriggling. You're just leapt on two different words and confused them.
You think it's wrong to eat animals for food. Many others don't, including me. We can't get past this, so this debate has become rather pointless.

the we in this instance being you and the other meat eaters i suppose

 

[ddraig]

I'm intrigued by this idea that we only think eating meat is normal because of a meat marketing board.

Poor indoctrinated us.

History's not your strongest suit, I'm guessing.

Is that all you got??
More of a joke than usual!

 

[ddraig]

I'm not wriggling. You're just leapt on two different words and confused them.
You think it's wrong to eat animals for food. Many others don't, including me. We can't get past this, so this debate has become rather pointless.

And you are in the majority so must be in the right too!
That's how it works init

 

[Orang Utan]

Is that all you got??
More of a joke than usual!

He's right. We ate meat before the industry came along.

Look, I accept and appreciate vegetarians' reasoning for not eating meat, but in turn, perhaps you should accept meat-eaters' reasoning for eating meat. You don't have to agree with it.

 

[Orang Utan]

And you are in the majority so must be in the right too!
That's how it works init

That's not what I'm saying. I'm just trying (badly) to explain why people eat meat, but you won't accept this.

 

[Pickman's model]

humanity? oh dear!
is it humane to grind millions of male chicks? are battery farms humane? is pumping cows full of chemicals humane? is slitting the throat or breaking the neck of a chicken humane?

by consensus you mean a majority that has been brought up with it as the 'norm' reinforced by the powerful meat marketing industry and notions of 'proper food'

is your culture better because it doesn't eat dogs like some forrins?

what you're missing here is the environmental impact on humans caused by this. the volume of water it takes to produce meat is phenomenal, while the abuse of antibiotics means their effect against disease is dissipating. meat eaters are having a horrendous impact on the environment, which many carnivores refuse to acknowledge.

 

[Orang Utan]

what you're missing here is the environmental impact on humans caused by this. the volume of water it takes to produce meat is phenomenal, while the abuse of antibiotics means their effect against disease is dissipating. meat eaters are having a horrendous impact on the environment, which many carnivores refuse to acknowledge.

I think this is the strongest argument for not eating meat. I think we're wasting time debating whether it's fundamentally right or wrong killing animals for food. It's an argument that goes nowhere.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

And you are in the majority so must be in the right too!
That's how it works init

Why just make up stuff that people haven't said?

You've been spouting complete drivel on this thread, and some of it highly condescending drivel at that. But not once has any meat eater on this thread insulted veggies or the concept of being a veggie.

 

[Sweet FA]

Fucking veggie wankers.

 

[Libertad]

Fucking veggie wankers.

Different thread I think.

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

Why just make up stuff that people haven't said?

You've been spouting complete drivel on this thread, and some of it highly condescending drivel at that. But not once has any meat eater on this thread insulted veggies or the concept of being a veggie.

Still, no one's been challenged to defeat the mighty vegan fun runners yet so we have that to come.

 

[8ball]

Still, no one's been challenged to defeat the mighty vegan fun runners yet so we have that to come.

What about the fearsome vegan boxing brigade?

 

[chilango]

This is quite the weakest excuse I've ever heard. Exactly where do you live? The Sahara?

When I did - literally - live in the Sahara I was veggie (virtually vegan tbf). Apart from the goat that got slaughtered for me once, but that's another story...

 

[8ball]

When I did - literally - live in the Sahara I was veggie (virtually vegan tbf). Apart from the goat that got slaughtered for me once, but that's another story...

Ever make cactus hooch?

 

[chilango]

Ever make cactus hooch?

No.

Drank date hooch.

Disgusting stuff.

 

[8ball]

Doesn't sound good.

 

[chilango]

Doesn't sound good.

Didn't taste good either. I dread to think what else was added to it.

Fucking sharia law

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

Ever make cactus hooch?

Do you get Cactuses (Cacti?) in the Sahara?

 

[8ball]

Do you get Cactuses (Cacti?) in the Sahara?

Yep. Some of which produce mescaline.

 

[DotCommunist]

Don't straw man me

bingo

 

[ddraig]

I'm not wriggling. You're just leapt on two different words and confused them.
You think it's wrong to eat animals for food. Many others don't, including me. We can't get past this, so this debate has become rather pointless.

so i should shut up then i guess!
and you win! hurrah

 

[ddraig]

Why just make up stuff that people haven't said?

You've been spouting complete drivel on this thread, and some of it highly condescending drivel at that. But not once has any meat eater on this thread insulted veggies or the concept of being a veggie.

little judge jesus tells it like it is, again, yawn

 

[Orang Utan]

so i should shut up then i guess!
and you win! hurrah

I have not told you to shut up and neither is there a winner or loser in such a debate, just differing points of view. You are being childish.

 

[ddraig]

sorry teach
should i face the wall?

 

[Spymaster]

so i should shut up then i guess!
and you win! hurrah

little judge jesus tells it like it is, again, yawn

Ah come on, nobody is trying to shut you up. You just take this stuff far more personally than you need to.

You have some (I'll admit it) admirable principles around this, but that doesn't mean that everyone else is in some way morally bankrupt, which is what you often seem to suggest.

 

[zxspectrum]

bingo

What?

 

[Orang Utan]

sorry teach
should i face the wall?

Don't be a dick.

 

[ddraig]

sorry if that's upset you, i've not read the thread

 

[Orang Utan]

sorry if that's upset you, i've not read the thread

So you're just being a dick. Cheers.

 

[ddraig]

Ah come on, nobody is trying to shut you up. You just take this stuff far more personally than you need to.

You have some (I'll admit it) admirable principles around this, but that doesn't mean that everyone else is in some way morally bankrupt, which is what you often seem to suggest.

i know that! i am dramatically extrapolating for the lols

lbj is waiting to jump on any little thing and he can fuck off.

the arguments are the same yes and boring so the only way to stop it is for me and the other vegi's to shut up or 'argue' in a way acceptable to those trying to shape the debate.
A lot of people agree with and don't see a problem with bringing back hanging, should we?

I want to add more but just know that i will be ambushed so there is no point, that's kind of where i am at now.