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People are not sectioned for saying or believing roses are talking to them. Your comparison is shit and does not highlight an inconsistency. This is why you are wrong.

What about this guy?



Would you deal with him by trying to convince him that the roses are infact telling him to adopt a liberal world view with femionism and gay rights? Or would you treat the mental illness of his thinking that the roses are talking to him at all?
 
I lived in (mental health) supported accommodation at the time of the lee rigby killings. The (mainly Muslim) staff complained bitterly about the stigmatising association of Islam and that (and other) killings. They told me it was 'obviously' because the perpetrators had a 'mental illness'.

I don't think they had much concept of irony.
 
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The MP5 - the 9mm semi-automatic carbine that caused such excitement when it first fell into police hands in the early 1980's - is on its way out.

Not powerful enough - when it came out the idea was to use low powered ammunition that wouldn't ricochet off everything for days on end killing civpop who were unlucky enough to be around, however the world moves on, and the 9mm is crap at penetrating body armour and cars. Most Police forces use military rifles these days - the German G36 rifle being quite popular...

They should equip them with these, for the lulz if nothing else

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Interesting take from Simon Jenkins on Newsnight last night, saying we should treat the event as a crime:

Not sure what to make of it, or Jenkins, who I thought was a right wing rentagob.
Found myself agreeing with him on how the media choose to report it, but I'm not sure what he means when he says the media should report it as a crime. A terrorist act IS a crime. I do think media and politicians ought to pipe down about it being an attack on 'our' values and such.
 
Interesting take from Simon Jenkins on Newsnight last night, saying we should treat the event as a crime:

Not sure what to make of it, or Jenkins, who I thought was a right wing rentagob.
Found myself agreeing with him on how the media choose to report it, but I'm not sure what he means when he says the media should report it as a crime. A terrorist act IS a crime. I do think media and politicians ought to pipe down about it being an attack on 'our' values and such.

Jenkins has never been a straightforward r/w rentagob. Also has interesting views on British militarism (very anti).
 
Why do the news keep including the attacker in the "death toll"??
Interesting take from Simon Jenkins on Newsnight last night, saying we should treat the event as a crime:

Not sure what to make of it, or Jenkins, who I thought was a right wing rentagob.
Found myself agreeing with him on how the media choose to report it, but I'm not sure what he means when he says the media should report it as a crime. A terrorist act IS a crime. I do think media and politicians ought to pipe down about it being an attack on 'our' values and such.


I don't think we need to worry too much about giving the terrorists the publicity they desire, because their strategy isn't based on reality. In reality theres no way that running people over with cars is going to bring abaout a global caliphate, irrespective of how much publicity it gets. Saying "oh but giving it publicity plays into their strategy" gives their strategy far too much credibility. This should be reported as a problem stemming from institusionalised mental illness. Not as some big scary ideological opponent. These people are utterly pathetic and what their delusional little minds want or don't want is irrelevant.
 
Very narrow and shallow notion you have of mental illness green.tea to conceive of it purely by 'rationality', excluding eg issues around mood, concentration, memory, obsessiveness etc

I'm not "conceiving it purely by rationality". Just because there are different types of mental illness doesn't mean that irrational delusions aren't one of them.
 
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