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Shameless, fawning, Alexandra O Cortez fan thread

The latest made up/manipulated stuff about her is crackers.

She held her hand up in the form of a zero in an interview on the late show and its morphed into Angry AOC gives zero fucks in an "Angry brown woman curses" trope which was patently untrue

Her twitter game is waaaaay ahead of the haters/smearers great to watch.
 
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The other thing is how the media try and pit Ocasio-Cortez against Nancy Pelosi (I'm pretty sure they Pelosi is delighted to see Ocassio-Cortez being able to raise issues that in her position, she can't, and Ocasio-Cortez acknowledges the achievements of women who blazed trails before her,) or suggest other new women in Congress may be jealous of all the attention she's getting. FFS, it's so predictable.

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Pelosi's a bought and paid for, big Machine Democrat, born and bred, Warren's little better - doubt she has a clue what AOC's on about half the time.
 
Pelosi's a bought and paid for, big Machine Democrat, born and bred, Warren's little better - doubt she has a clue what AOC's on about half the time.
I think Pelosi is sharper than that. She knows how to get under Trump's skin. But yes, she knows how the political "machine" works. Even if you don't like that machine, it's there and better to have someone who can steer it into a position where it may be possible to fix or replace it later on. Otherwise, it's like kicking the wheels of a big truck, thinking one day that will make it collapse.

See, according to "received wisdom," because I think Pelosi is the right person to be in the job she's in right now, I'm supposed to hate Ocasio-Cortez. I'm certainly not supposed to be saying she's cleverly getting people talking about issues that otherwise probably would have stayed on the margins, and this will contribute to the Democratic party's progression and (if we ever get beyond the Trump hellhole shit) make a positive difference to America and the world. No, old people and young people aren't supposed to understand each other or work together, and women in senior positions have to be backstabbing each other. It's the way of the world, right? :rolleyes:

I think Now This got over excited with this clip, but good on her for getting involved.

 
I think Pelosi is sharper than that. She knows how to get under Trump's skin. But yes, she knows how the political "machine" works. Even if you don't like that machine, it's there and better to have someone who can steer it into a position where it may be possible to fix or replace it later on. Otherwise, it's like kicking the wheels of a big truck, thinking one day that will make it collapse.

See, according to "received wisdom," because I think Pelosi is the right person to be in the job she's in right now, I'm supposed to hate Ocasio-Cortez. I'm certainly not supposed to be saying she's cleverly getting people talking about issues that otherwise probably would have stayed on the margins, and this will contribute to the Democratic party's progression and (if we ever get beyond the Trump hellhole shit) make a positive difference to America and the world. No, old people and young people aren't supposed to understand each other or work together, and women in senior positions have to be backstabbing each other. It's the way of the world, right? :rolleyes:

I think Now This got over excited with this clip, but good on her for getting involved.


More fantasy and wish fulfilment. Where's the evidence?
 
What on earth are you on about?! Honestly, what do you think I'm saying here? That I think AOC is shit?
I'm saying you've bought into the bullshit that women in positions of power are bitchy to each other. You can't seem to wrap your head around the idea that Pelosia and Ocasio-Cortez, could be working toward broadly similar goals, and using their differing positions, perspectives and political approaches to do that. Naw, they have to be clawing each others eyes out, sure. :rolleyes:
 
FFS, look at the media outlets you are quoting from. Vice, Politico and Jacobin consistently push the "Democrats in disarray" bollocks since forever, even after the Democrats flipped 38 House Seats in the midterms - the third largest flip since the early 70's, and that despite hobbling of the VRA and extreme gerrymandering after the 2010 redistricting. But sure, believe whatever you want.

BTW, Jacobin . . .

Jacobin Accused of Reneging on Wage Deal in British Takeover of...
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I'm saying you've bought into the bullshit that women in positions of power are bitchy to each other. You can't seem to wrap your head around the idea that Pelosia and Ocasio-Cortez, could be working toward broadly similar goals, and using their differing positions, perspectives and political approaches to do that. Naw, they have to be clawing each others eyes out, sure. :rolleyes:
Fuck me, are you my therapist? What a load of waffle. This idea that you're proposing, apart from your feeeelings, where is the evidence that they are working towards common goals? Using common methods? What is their common ground apart from the fact that they're both nominally Dems? You got nothing fuckwit, nothing. Wrap your head around that.

As for this whole catfight thing, that's another thing you've simply made up and weirdly ascribed to me.
 
She's now on the House Oversight Committee, so she gets to be front and centre of any investigations into the Trump administration, as did Rashida Tlaib (the woman who said "impeach the motherfucker" at a speech). :D
Just flagging this again. It's unusual to appoint so many newly elected Congress men and women to such an important committee, so very shrewd. And with Elijah Cummings leading up the Committee? They ain't gonna piss about. :)

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obvs v overdone all over soc meejaj, but boy, this is new terrain, however cynical we could manage to get over it :
She's been in Congress for 6 weeks, and decides to just go with the meta- critique, like that.
( and whilst gett8ing hung on soc media numbers is a mugs game, 700K RT / Likes on James Cordens Tweet, 170k on Zarbs, etc etc etc ..... )


If she gets fully behind Bernie 2020, she could have a proper run at 2025.... ( probably too early, but might be hard to resist)

 
Pelosi's a bought and paid for, big Machine Democrat, born and bred, Warren's little better - doubt she has a clue what AOC's on about half the time.

That Pelosi’s applauding of Donald Trump can be coded as some sort of act of defiant resistance is testimony to how craven mainstream US liberal opinion is these days. Christ, imagine if these toothless cowards were in the Spartacus scene. They’d immediately identify Spartacus but point at him in a slightly sarcastic way and then hi five each other for sticking it to the Romans.
 
The Green New Deal Takes Its First Congressional Baby Step
February 7 2019

Shameless optimism I know but it makes a change.

It won't happen if we have people in leadership positions who don't back it, in fact, they sneer at it:

Thursday is a big day for Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. The New York freshman Democrat, who has rapidly become one of the biggest stars in her party, will formally introduce her much-touted "Green New Deal" -- a package of legislation aimed at, among other things, addressing the threat posed by climate change.

Nancy Pelosi isn't all that impressed. Asked about the "Green New Deal" in an interview with Politico on Wednesday, Pelosi dropped this amazing bit of shade on it:

"It will be one of several or maybe many suggestions that we receive. The green dream, or whatever they call it, nobody knows what it is, but they're for it, right?"


Nancy Pelosi just threw some serious shade at Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's 'Green New Deal' - CNNPolitics

From the reactions I've heard from local Democratic leaders, Pelosi isn't alone in sneering. I've literally had people tell me that they don't have to care what the environmental caucus wants because we "don't have anywhere else to go."
 
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