Badger Kitten said:
You can be a salafi extremist and have far right opinions, surely? I mean, a lot of the out-there extremist stuff is strikingly similar to the Storm Front-y stuff. Antisemitism, conspiracy theories, misogyny and tiny-minded smugness ''that's just the way it's naturally ordained to be'' as justification for their opinions. I read a load of extremist literature over the summer and it was unbelievably depressing but I was struck by how similar a lot of it was to other hardliner stuff.
Re. Fattboy - I reckon he's about 19, been in and out of trouble in his teens, found himself looking for a new gang, a new masculine identity, some people who feel like brothers, some people who can tell him what to think and what to do with a side order of machismo and victimhood to feel newly good about himself, a new family almost. Maybe he's been in a spot of bother, stint in Feltham or whatever, still has a need for a bit of rebellion against the family, & has recently got involved with some local bro's who took him down the salafi mosque - and here we are.
U75 is a silly baord to try and proselytise on, but he's not doing it to win converts, he's doing it for himself because it makes him feel good.
Zealotry, boredom, and something to show the big boys to prove how devoted he is, that's what this is about
As long as he sticks to txt-spk gibberish on BBs he's harmless. It's when the machismo and the toxic misrepresentation of Islam he's swallowed starts becoming something else that its a worry. Germaine Lindsey was a teenage revert and that didn't end too well.
im a lot more than 19 and ive been a muslim 4 years now and ive never been in prison neither.
i dont really care if im not liked on here to be honest, in fact id be more worried if i was cos theres some not very nice ppl here but theres nice ones as well.
all the first generation, the salaf were reverts and they were the best ppl ever raised from mankind, and some of them were the bitterest of enemies to Islam and the Prophet pbuh, and they became the leading lights of Islam by the Grace of Allah, so only Allah Knows whos gonna become a muslim one day out of u lot, if any.
some ppl become muslims just before they die, it doesnt often happen overnight.
i wouldnt expect ppl to just jump up and become muslims, i never always liked Islam, i thought it was for ppl who needed to chill out a bit and not be so serious but when u see the truth of Islam and ur sincere u will accept it.
i can relate to some of u lot, i used to go pubbing and clubbing, drinking and smoking,this that and the other, bagleys, gatecrasher,strawberry sundae,dance valley, all the ibiza clubs, been there 3 times, goa, amsterdam nuff times, so u lot probably think im stuck up or self righteous but im not, ive lived a bit as well and had a good time but i would never want to go back to them times, thats just existing for the sake of it, theres no purpose to it other than doing as much decadence as u can and thats not what we here for, the hereafters gonna be a thousand times better than anything u can do in this temporary life, so why trade peace and bliss for all eternity for the sake of a few years,but thats pretty much the test of this life.
and anyway even if u do some stuff like that, it doesnt mean ur not a muslim, ur just not a very good one.
u aint gotta be perfect to be a musim,u just try ur best thats all u can do, better to be believer that sins than a disbeliever.
Islams the truth and its beautiful when u live it but to see it u gotta put ur prejudices and bias aside or else u'll never see it for what it is.
we aint miserable ppl, we have a laugh and a joke and yeah there is great brother and sisterhood in Islam, i love my family but i love my brothers and sisters in Islam more.
i just wanna try and show ppl that Islam isnt what they might think it is, if just one person thinks a bit differently and reflects on it, then thats good innit.
