Saudi gang rape victim sentenced to lashes and prison

[fattboy]

mmm... Maybe I could start questioning him about Catholicism to see how much of what he wrote in that post is true?

salaam.

anytime bro, come from an irish family, we got that stuff whacked into us

was named after the pope too

 

[MikeMcc]

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i just wanna try and show ppl that Islam isnt what they might think it is, if just one person thinks a bit differently and reflects on it, then thats good innit.

Unfortunately, the particular aspects that you have chosen to comment on have been the particular points that cause so much distrust of Sharia law in the west. Whether the distrust is primarily due to media mis-interpretation or not is not generally considered. It is so easy to find extremists spouting off about stonings, how 'immoral' western society is, etc, that many people will simply follow the media line.

 

[fattboy]

Everything I saw of his postings so far is blatantly wrongly twisted.

salaam.

i think ur a sufi, am i correct, or is that a secret too?

if so, then yeah, we have our differences for sure.

 

[fattboy]

Unfortunately, the particular aspects that you have chosen to comment on have been the particular points that cause so much distrust of Sharia law in the west. Whether the distrust is primarily due to media mis-interpretation or not is not generally considered. It is so easy to find extremists spouting off about stonings, how 'immoral' western society is, etc, that many people will simply follow the media line.

maybe, but im not gonna lie and says Islams anything other than what i believe to be the truth

and why so much emphasis on stonings, they happen once in a blue moon and to get caught committing adultery in the sharia u'd have to be somewhat of an idiot, to be brutally honest about it.

can we just drop stonings for a bit please

 

[Shippou-Sensei]

and why so much emphasis on stonings, they happen once in a blue moon and to get caught committing adultery in the sharia u'd have to be somewhat of an idiot, to be brutally honest about it.

can we just drop stonings for a bit please

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i have no words to describe what i thnk of that statement.... it's like logic never existed

 

[MikeMcc]

maybe, but im not gonna lie and says Islams anything other than what i believe to be the truth

and why so much emphasis on stonings, they happen once in a blue moon and to get caught committing adultery in the sharia u'd have to be somewhat of an idiot, to be brutally honest about it.

can we just drop stonings for a bit please

Because you advocated it!

 

[GarfieldLeChat]

maybe, but im not gonna lie and says Islams anything other than what i believe to be the truth

and why so much emphasis on stonings, they happen once in a blue moon and to get caught committing adultery in the sharia u'd have to be somewhat of an idiot, to be brutally honest about it.

can we just drop stonings for a bit please

a bit of an idiot like being gang raped perhaps?

i think i'd laike clarification in the most succinct manner as to what prescisely you mean considering the thread topic...

 

[nino_savatte]

I find it odd that he's even here. Why come to Urban to spout off quarter-baked islamism taken from a few dodgy websites?

He's a flak machine?

 

[butchersapron]

anytime bro, come from an irish family, we got that stuff whacked into us

was named after the pope too

I do hope that you sort out your identity crisis in the best way possible for both you and for society as a whole. As it stands i don't think you're dealing with it very well at the moment. I think you badly need an experienced person to walk you through whatever problems you're having.

 

[fattboy]

lol, what u doing tomorrow?

 

[butchersapron]

I wasn't offering to be the one to hold your hand. Personally i hope the RAWA cuts your balls off and feeds them to you. I was just noting what you are so clearly in need of.

 

[Badger Kitten]

RAWA

 

[GarfieldLeChat]

fattboy can you clarify what you mean by 'a bit of an idiot' in releation being gang raped?

 

[_angel_]

fattboy can you clarify what you mean by 'a bit of an idiot' in releation being gang raped?

tsk clearly the woman should not have left the confines of her house without a male chaperone.

This is probably a straight answer from fattboy.

 

[Aldebaran]

i think ur a sufi, am i correct

No. I told you before: I was born and raised in Sunni Islam.

maybe, but im not gonna lie and says Islams anything other than what i believe to be the truth

Good. Now start to study it seriously instead of parrotting heretical Radical nonsense websites.

and why so much emphasis on stonings, they happen once in a blue moon and to get caught committing adultery in the sharia u'd have to be somewhat of an idiot, to be brutally honest about it.

There is no way to defend stoning as a punishment for anything.
In fact: to defend, let alone to issue a verdict of death sentence comes down to no less than acting as if you are equal or even above Allah.

can we just drop stonings for a bit please

No it can't be dropped until this stain on Islam - or better said: this violent abusive twist given by men to the teachings of Allah - is erradicated.

salaam.

 

[fattboy]

i really hope ur just ignorant, cos if u arent i think u might have just apostated

 

[invisibleplanet]

Don't be ridiculous, fattboy. Supporting a moratorium on hudud is quite rational, and nothing to do with apostatism.

 

[butchersapron]

Expel him fattboy

 

[Bob_the_lost]

i really hope ur just ignorant, cos if u arent i think u might have just apostated

Is that like following through?

I wouldn't worry too much, shit happens after all.

 

[Fuchs66]

You know what Fattboy reading your posts has made me think, if, as you say, your God is the one and only all singing and dancing omnipotent being. Why then is he so weak that if someone breaks one of his laws he has to send someone who shares your views around with a handful of stones?
Surely if what you said is true then the punishments waiting for the wrong 'un will be much worse after he or as is often the case she, is dead without your help beforehand and I'm sure an omnipotent super being can hang around for a few decades for the fun, although I'm sure he's pretty busy as I've never met anyone with such warped views as yours are, so I guess the rest of us are pretty much in the shit.
It sounds all a bit "I am the mighty Wizard of Oz" just gets a bit disappointing when the curtain gets pulled back.

 

[GarfieldLeChat]

fattboy can you clarify what you mean by 'a bit of an idiot' in releation being gang raped?

just in case you missed it

 

[Aldebaran]

Don't be ridiculous, fattboy. Supporting a moratorium on hudud is quite rational, and nothing to do with apostatism.

It has nothing to do with hudud either.
Stoning is not defensable within Shari'a Law and indeed no death sentence outed by a human ever is. The only thing you need to understand that is a shred of theological understanding of Islam (or any other religon that considers God to be the Creator of All).

Anyone who thinks to have the power to end someone's life, thus placing and valueing himself at that moment above God, makes himself guilty of blasphemy by his thoughts alone.

salaam.

 

[Aldebaran]

i really hope ur just ignorant, cos if u arent i think u might have just apostated

What you think doesn't matter.
What should matter to you is your ignorance, your incredible arrogance and your unwillingness to be humble before God and study His religion you claim to adhere.

salaam.

 

[invisibleplanet]

Stoning is not defensable within Shari'a Law and indeed no death sentence outed by a human ever is. The only thing you need to understand that is a shred of theological understanding of Islam (or any other religon that considers God to be the Creator of All).

Anyone who thinks to have the power to end someone's life, thus placing and valueing himself at that moment above God, makes himself guilty of blasphemy by his thoughts alone.

salaam.

Agreed (from a theological and humanist point of view).

 

[Aldebaran]

I don't know about Judaism, but it should be clear as cristal to every Muslim that there is no defence possible for issuing a death sentence.
To give a few examples

1. You declare yourself master over life and death (= outright blasphemy)
2. You deprive the individual from repentence and living a just and virtuous life.
3. You take away a loved one from his/her family, possibly also depriving children from their father or mother's love and care.

etc..

salaam.

 

[frogwoman]

absolutely aldebaran

also,putting life and deatdh in the hands of the state or in the hands of one or two people, is a very dangerous business

 

[Spion]

Stoning is not defensable within Shari'a Law and indeed no death sentence outed by a human ever is. The only thing you need to understand that is a shred of theological understanding of Islam (or any other religon that considers God to be the Creator of All).

The trouble is religious interpretation constantly changes to suit social and political circumstances and the balances of power in society. You can pontificate all you like about the true theological understanding that one should get from a religion, but unless that understanding is one that suits the role of that religion in its social setting and fills a need for particular classes or groups of people and/or the state, you will be forever pissing in the wind (scuse my language, vicar). It really is idealism in the true sense of the word to think otherwise.

 

[Badger Kitten]

i really hope ur just ignorant, cos if u arent i think u might have just apostated

Someone who knows what he is talking about<<<<<<>>>>>>>unintentionally hilarious ignoramus

Aldebaran<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>fattboy​

 

[GarfieldLeChat]

fattboy can you clarify what you mean by 'a bit of an idiot' in releation being gang raped?

And again.

 

[Badger Kitten]

Bump. Actually, when he says stuff like that he is not being unintentionally hilarious as he was on the Qu'ran thread in history & philosophy when he came out with the rubbish about satellites and negative energy released through heads and plate tectonics and the atmosphere.

When he says that about gang-rape survivors he is being indescribably repellent.