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Russell Brand: rape and sexual abuse allegations, grifting and general dodginess - discussion

ShiftyBagLady said:
It's peculiar how the people who criticise brand for drawing attention to himself rather than the issues he is talking about proceed to talk more about him and how much they dislike him rather than the issues themselves.
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He was better when he only drew attention to himself, rather than 'issues' like WEF conspiracies and ivermectin
 
CooltanRefugee said:
Anyone know which church Brand has signed up to? which denomination is he?
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Not sure which one exactly, but a full immersion baptism sounds like one of the evangelicals / born again crew. Despite rumours to the contrary, I don’t think he’s gone RC since - from what little I know - the Vaticanist tendency don’t do full immersion baptism.

Unless, like Fox’s pal the Phony Father Calvin Robinson, he’s joined one of those weird Old Catholic groupuscules, Gawd alone knows what they get up to
 
scalyboy said:
Not sure which one exactly, but a full immersion baptism sounds like one of the evangelicals / born again crew. Despite rumours to the contrary, I don’t think he’s gone RC since - from what little I know - the Vaticanist tendency don’t do full immersion baptism.

Unless, like Fox’s pal the Phony Father Calvin Robinson, he’s joined one of those weird Old Catholic groupuscules, Gawd alone knows what they get up to
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It'll probably be one that does the mass in Latin some sort of geezerish new age-speak.
 
krtek a houby said:
Does it really matter? He's a wrong un and, imho, wouldn't be representative of whatever belief system he's signed up to?

Unless one of the fringey fringe groups...
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I suspect he's in the bit of the fringe where religion shades into cult. Surprised he hasn't gone Scientologist, though they have their own pecking order and he wouldn't be that keen on being merely Celebrity Believer, Entry Grade.
 
Wilf said:
I suspect he's in the bit of the fringe where religion shades into cult. Surprised he hasn't gone Scientologist, though they have their own pecking order and he wouldn't be that keen on being merely Celebrity Believer, Entry Grade.
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Where cunt shades into religion.
 
Brand's alleged baptism may genuinely mean that he has embraced Christianity.

But it could also be a cunning pre-emptive move; if he does go on trial and if he is found guilty, he could plead in mitigation at the sentencing stage.

"It was all a long time ago, I'm now a changed man, I can prove this as I was baptised in spring 2024 and embraced Christianity. I acknowledged I was a sinner and did great harm to a number of women. But seeing as now I'm born again in the Lord, I ask for leniency".

The cunning aspect is that he hasn't admitted to any wrong-doing so is hedging his bets, hoping the CPS don't advance his case to trial stage, and even if they do, he's hoping to be found not guilty (you can bet your arse he has enough income to hire a very expensive brief)

A true Christian (or indeed any decent persons of another religion, or none) would already have acknowledged and admitted that they had committed serious acts of sexual abuse (at this stage, alleged) against a number of women.

But instead he refers to the numerous allegations of sexual abuse as "very, very hurtful" - a narcissist's POV.
 
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scalyboy said:
Brand's alleged baptism may genuinely mean that he has embraced Christianity, although I believe he has previous as a sort of spiritual magpie, picking bits here and bits there.

But it could also be a cunning pre-emptive move; if he does go on trial and if he is found guilty, he could plead in mitigation at the sentencing stage.

"It was all a long time ago, I'm now a changed man, I can prove this as I was baptised in spring 2024 and embraced Christianity. I acknowledges I was a sinner and did great harm to a number of women. But as now that I'm born again in the Lord I ask for leniency".

The cunning aspect is that he hasn't admitted to any wrong-doing, so is hedging his bets, hoping the CPS don't advance his case to trial stage, and even if they do, he's hoping to be found not guilty (you can bet your arse he has enough income to hire a very expensive brief)

A true Christian (or indeed any decent persons of another religion, or of none) would already have acknowledged and admitted that they had committed serious acts of sexual abuse on a number of women.

But instead he refers to the numerous allegations of sexual abuse as "very, very hurtful" - a narcissist's POV.
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:confused: Have you run that past the Vatican?
 
I believe he has some previous as a spiritual magpie, picking bits of one religion here and bits of another there.

I noticed while watching one of his recent videos (well, as much as I could stomach) that he claims to be praying the Rosary every day, which would suggest RC or Anglo-Catholic, but has undergone a full-immersion baptism, which the Catholic man dem don't do, but is usual within the Evangelical / born again crew. I believe Nigel Benn was baptised in a similar way when he was born again into an Evangelical group. Will check his autobiography later if I can find it.

He is also said to have done some of the Alpha course, which is on the Evangelical and not the Catholic side, yet he says he prays the Rosary every day. He's all over the place.

And he says he still uses Tarot cards and other methods of divination, which would be regarded as heretical or at least sinful by the Vatican, Anglo-Catholic and Evangelical tendencies, because only Jah God can know the future. And as is well-known, the Tarot, Yoga, Tai Chi etc are gateways that open a portal through which all manner of malicious spirits may enter your arse mind.
 
scalyboy said:
I believe he has some previous as a spiritual magpie, picking bits of one religion here and bits of another there.
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Not wanting to defend the wanker in the slightest, but there's something to be said about certain parts of certain belief systems.

You might not buy into the wholesale religion itself, but parts of the ideology or message may appeal. Be it Abrahamic, Buddhist, Hindu, pagan and so on.
 
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krtek a houby said:
Does it really matter? He's a wrong un and, imho, wouldn't be representative of whatever belief system he's signed up to?

Unless one of the fringey fringe groups...
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Yeah he may not be representative but it's interesting to see if he's in a mainstream church or not. Does the C of E have to take ownership of him?

IIRC, when Tony Blair catholic he did get a ticking off from the pope, over Iraq.
 
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