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Quick, someone see if greyzone.co.uk is still availableI can't believe they called their British branch, which appears to be a one-man operation, "Grayzone UK" instead of "The Greyzone"
Quick, someone see if greyzone.co.uk is still availableI can't believe they called their British branch, which appears to be a one-man operation, "Grayzone UK" instead of "The Greyzone"
Sputnik Kit?their British branch...appears to be a one-man operation
Tucker Carlson is very critical of current US foreign policy and very supportive of Russia. When Larry O'Hara and others go on about US Foreign Policy, they don't seem to have many issues with the Trumpite far-Right and the policies they would persue.Brand is mates with Tucker Carson so I don't think he is critical of America these days anyway.
Tucker Carlson is very critical of current US foreign policy and very supportive of Russia. When Larry O'Hara and others go on about US Foreign Policy, they don't seem to have many issues with the Trumpite far-Right and the policies they would persue.
I haven't followed him but he seems to be part of what I might call the Covid libertine tendency ie. those conspiratorially minded but leftish anti-imperialists who were galvinised in opposition to Covid lockdowns and vaccination programmes. Piers Corbyn, Chris Williamson and Max Blumenthal etc. At a very basic level they're in opposition to organised labour who wanted protections for key workers and medical staff etc. Not even something like "red-brown" now because there isn't anything red about them, they're all about making alliances with right wing and far right wing movements and outlets now, anti-imperialist only in the sense of supportive of Trump's isolationist tendencies and general Putin fandom.
Not that that makes any difference to the accusations against Brand of course.
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Surely that's just saying they wrote to the wrong people though?Somebody (not me) made a Freedom of Information Request to Northamptonshire Police, Fire and Crime Commissioner to ask for a transcript of the hoax phone call Brand made to Northants police in 2008. Negative response:
Yes, I should've better worded my post. Wonder if they'll ask Northants Police next and if they'll get anything from them.Surely that's just saying they wrote to the wrong people though?
"Nothing to do with me guv".
The original FOI request was made on 22nd September, and the reply clarifying that Northants PFCC did not hold the information came in three days - that's the fastest response I've ever heard of.Yes, I should've better worded my post. Wonder if they'll ask Northants Police next and if they'll get anything from them.
With heads up (probably in both directions)The original FOI request was made on 22nd September, and the reply clarifying that Northants PFCC did not hold the information came in three days - that's the fastest response I've ever heard of.
"Looking after those who appear on our shows is a top priority and we always strive to ensure our guests feel comfortable and happy during filming...we continually review and evolve our company welfare processes with the aim for everyone to feel supported."
Never seen the "keith lemon" stuff but i had a mate that liked "bo selecta" years back and used to put it on. I thought it was shite then.Here's another one hiding in plain sight - Keith Lemon (real name, Leigh Francis). Not a physical assault, but sustained sexist harassment/abuse in front of an audience. He 'entertained' an audience for 3 hours, making sexist comments to/about Melanie Sykes during a recording of Through the Keyhole, according to her complaint. Two things stand out to me: firstly, it's the hiding in plain sight. Another gobshite comedian, laddish, sexist, no boundaries, who turns out to be..... well, yes, correct. Can't say I've ever thought much about Keith Lemon other than finding him tedious and sexist. But then, yet again, no off switch and the public 'comedian' is an absolute shit in a wider sense (technically, this isn't an on stage/off stage thing. The abuse of Sykes was in the studio, but when the cameras weren't rolling). Not everyone, but maybe comedians and others who 'perform' sexist shit are sexist shits. But with Lemon, how entirely predictable, he's been performing like that for years and, no surprise, that's what he is.
The other thing is the entirely predictable non-response from Talkback detailed in the story. And this managerial response could be cut and pasted into just about every one of these stories:
Melanie Sykes claimed Keith Lemon complaints were 'ignored by TV bosses'
Melanie Sykes opened up about an alleged experience on ITV's Through The Keyhole which left her in tears 'for three hours'.www.dailyrecord.co.uk
Yeah that's him. I think he had a dodgy "celebrity stalker" character as well IIRC.He’s the one who used to blackface to mock Craig David / Michael Jackson etc?
I also think that easy access to porn has played a large role in fucking up young men & women. What used to be considered hard-core is now mainstream. It's pretty hard to find porn which doesn't include an element of force, pain and utter subjugation of women. So it's no wonder that Brands 'jokes' about deepthroating and mascara running weren't seen as that shocking, sadly.
Does a lot of gambling adverts as well. A shit for all seasons.Yeah that's him. I think he had a dodgy "celebrity stalker" character as well IIRC.
I have always found the guy utterly creepy. I can’t watch him. So not surprised at all, and have always expected worse to come out.Here's another one hiding in plain sight - Keith Lemon (real name, Leigh Francis). Not a physical assault, but sustained sexist harassment/abuse in front of an audience. He 'entertained' an audience for 3 hours, making sexist comments to/about Melanie Sykes during a recording of Through the Keyhole, according to her complaint. Two things stand out to me: firstly, it's the hiding in plain sight. Another gobshite comedian, laddish, sexist, no boundaries, who turns out to be..... well, yes, correct. Can't say I've ever thought much about Keith Lemon other than finding him tedious and sexist. But then, yet again, no off switch and the public 'comedian' is an absolute shit in a wider sense (technically, this isn't an on stage/off stage thing. The abuse of Sykes was in the studio, but when the cameras weren't rolling). Not everyone, but maybe comedians and others who 'perform' sexist shit are sexist shits. But with Lemon, how entirely predictable, he's been performing like that for years and, no surprise, that's what he is.
The other thing is the entirely predictable non-response from Talkback detailed in the story. And this managerial response could be cut and pasted into just about every one of these stories:
Melanie Sykes claimed Keith Lemon complaints were 'ignored by TV bosses'
Melanie Sykes opened up about an alleged experience on ITV's Through The Keyhole which left her in tears 'for three hours'.www.dailyrecord.co.uk
I have always found the guy utterly creepy. I can’t watch him. So not surprised at all, and have always expected worse to come out.
And when asked if he feared facing similar allegations to Russell, Leigh told MailOnline: 'I’ve been married to the same lady since I was a little boy.
'I met my wife when I was 19, and I got married when I was 30 to the same lady, so there’s no worry about me getting cancelled for that.'
I’m even more convinced now.Don't worry he has a water tight alibi...
(Won't post link as daily fail)
I thought it was 'interesting' that they explicitly asked him that question.Don't worry he has a water tight alibi...
(Won't post link as daily fail)
I thought it was 'interesting' that they explicitly asked him that question.
As always, there's a debate to be had about comedy, transgression and the rest. Certainly I wouldn't want comedy to become a sanitised 'safe space'. But what a lot of these cases (such as Lemon's) do remind you is that treating someone like shit and adding to misogyny, are just that, nothing else.
Very well put CDL.I'm embarassed to say I quite liked Russel Brand back in the day. So that fact and how triggering the accounts of rape and SA were to hear on the dispatches programme has left a real dark cloud over the last few weeks. All made worse by the many posts blindly supporting him. We need to get one thing straight...he can't sue us all and we are allowed to talk about serious allegations and share our opinions ...we won't shut up no matter how many times you say 'innocent until proven guilty' fuck off.
It got me thinking about why I liked him...I wouldnt have called myself a fan as such but he did amuse me occasionally. I think I always enjoy seeing people on TV causing chaos...disrupting shows and getting presenters to drop their fake TV personas. I suppose bad behaviour, edginess and blatant narcissism can be amusing from a safe distance but absolutely terrifying up close. I'd not seen or heard a lot of the really horrible stuff that's being reposted though, I imagine lots of people hadn't. But even some of the stuff from buzzcocks and big fat quiz of the year is quite shocking to rewatch, as thankfully we have had quite a speedy paradigm shift in the last decade and things we'd laugh at then are now very uncomfortable viewing.
I think something that we need to realise is that just because a guy is seen as charming and attractive to some, doesn't mean that they can't be a sexual predator. Its almost as if people assume that if someone is capable of pulling lots of women then they have no need to rape! (And Ive heard people ...mainly men say this about non famous men also) So to point out the obvious...rape is about power, control & twisted abuse, not about a lack of access to willing sexual partners.
I also think that easy access to porn has played a large role in fucking up young men & women. What used to be considered hard-core is now mainstream. It's pretty hard to find porn which doesn't include an element of force, pain and utter subjugation of women. So it's no wonder that Brands 'jokes' about deepthroating and mascara running weren't seen as that shocking, sadly.
He used his charm, celebrity and power to gain access to women in much the same way as musicians always have and I don't think we've moved past lauding them and feeling jealous of them for that as a society. He was able to pick out audience members to try to fuck after shows in the same way I've heard many musicians doing. It's always felt grimey as fuck but it would be nice if we could work towards it being unacceptable. The fact that his runners felt unable to complain about basically acting like his pimps is horrendous. If we don't change this and the way that 'talent' are protected then these abuses by stars will continue. Its so sick that money can buy silence and legal protection of abuse allegations getting out.
Anyway this post has veered off on many tangents ...apologies.
What I really hope is that the next generations of women will not be taught to faun around disgusting & dangerous men. That they feel able to call out bad behaviour in public, on screen and in every day life without being labelled a prude, a killjoy or it affecting their careers. That women's comfort will be considered more important than a man's discomfort at being called out. That they won't be expected to smile, shrink and laugh off clear boundary violations.
Arghh
I do wonder whether one of the reasons misogyny and sexism is rife in comedy is because nobody wants to be the one who calls out the comedian and risking being accused of "not getting the joke". It's not going to be a sole factor, but I could see how it might add to the discouragement.Here's another one hiding in plain sight - Keith Lemon (real name, Leigh Francis). Not a physical assault, but sustained sexist harassment/abuse in front of an audience. He 'entertained' an audience for 3 hours, making sexist comments to/about Melanie Sykes during a recording of Through the Keyhole, according to her complaint. Two things stand out to me: firstly, it's the hiding in plain sight. Another gobshite comedian, laddish, sexist, no boundaries, who turns out to be..... well, yes, correct. Can't say I've ever thought much about Keith Lemon other than finding him tedious and sexist. But then, yet again, no off switch and the public 'comedian' is an absolute shit in a wider sense (technically, this isn't an on stage/off stage thing. The abuse of Sykes was in the studio, but when the cameras weren't rolling). Not everyone, but maybe comedians and others who 'perform' sexist shit are sexist shits. But with Lemon, how entirely predictable, he's been performing like that for years and, no surprise, that's what he is.
The other thing is the entirely predictable non-response from Talkback detailed in the story. And this managerial response could be cut and pasted into just about every one of these stories:
Melanie Sykes claimed Keith Lemon complaints were 'ignored by TV bosses'
Melanie Sykes opened up about an alleged experience on ITV's Through The Keyhole which left her in tears 'for three hours'.www.dailyrecord.co.uk
Erm, no, he's accused of misogynistic harassment against Melanie Sykes, in the studio. Something specific, not just his general schtick. I made it clear that he hasn't been acused of physical sexual abuse.Let's be fair here.
Keith Lemon/Leigh Francis has never been accused of being a glassy eyed abuser of women.
We're accusing him of being an over the top "nudge nudge wink wink" purveyor of OTT humor to get a reacion. There's at least one of those in every pub.
He knows what he is doing and almost stays on the right side of innuendo and stuff. Most of the time.
(this is nott a disclaimer or a defence of the man, but he's not been accused of Brand style issues, unless I've missed womething)