Lurdan
old wave
He's announced his resignation effective December. The Council's statement about it which includes his is here :
http://www.rotherham.gov.uk/news/article/243/statement_from_martin_kimber
Rotherham child rape gangs: At least 1400 victims
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butchersapron
Bring back hanging
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Home Office researcher claimes she was threatened by South Yorkshire police officers - with suggestion they would tell groomers her address
The claim, i don't know where it will or has appeared.
Home Office researcher claimes she was threatened by South Yorkshire police officers - with suggestion they would tell groomers her address
The claim, i don't know where it will or has appeared.
Lurdan
old wave
The Home Affairs Committee heard evidence from the 2002 researcher this afternoon in closed session - this threat was then put to the Current Chief Constable.
Session still ongoing now :
http://www.bbc.co.uk/democracylive/21006886
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Ta. That makes sense of a few things that i was getting earlier.
Flanflinger
Well-Known Member
I look forward to reading about that. Unless of course you are making it up !!!!!!!
Fingers
From Tuscany SE22
Going to the effort of making it up would be a pretty pointless exercise to be honest.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Yeah - but you may have been sold a pup. See Jasna for past pup-sellery.
Fingers
From Tuscany SE22
The stuff about Jasna came with a caveat that it might be horseshit if you cast your mind back. I am still not sold either way. Talking of Jasna, Lee Jasper seems to have taken up her case recently if you are interested in a very long read
http://leejasper.blogspot.co.uk/2014/09/ukip-metropolitan-police-service-and.html
Lurdan
old wave
Some interesting fragments of information from the Home Affairs Committee :
Began with closed session involving Angie Heal (2003 report), Jayne Senior formerly of Risky Business and the 2002 researcher.
First witnesses current and former Chief Constables.
The exact words used by the Committee Member (ETA: Nicola Blackwood) to describe the threat to the researcher were :
"She was threatened in her car at night by two police officers who told her 'Wouldn't it be a bad thing if some of these men found out where you lived', and she feared for her life".
Apparently when the researchers materials were removed from the Risky Business offices the persons involved (more than one) were seen by a caretaker. They had the key combination (presumably to offices) and cabinet keys. Supposedly only 5 known people (presumably outside the project) had these. No police investigation. Suggestion later in the session of people being advised 'not to report' the incident. Not stated by whom. SYP can 'find no record' of these events.
Police officers involved in the incident where victims arrested for drunkeness identified. One now retired. Matter to be referred to IPCC. Other incidents mentioned at last weeks session being investigated.
13 more victims have come forward since last week.
There have been 68 convictions for CSE since start of 2013. (Not clear over what area - presumably whole SYP).
ETA : Committee had been supplied with a list of prosecutions and convictions and observed that it appeared to involve repeat offenders.
David Crompton stated that he is now 'negotiating' with National Crime Agency to run independent investigation. A former Chief Constable to head it has been identified. Presumably not the former SYP Chief Constable sitting next to him who got something of a monstering from the committee for his repeated claim that he had been unaware of the "scale and scope" of the CSE.
Began with closed session involving Angie Heal (2003 report), Jayne Senior formerly of Risky Business and the 2002 researcher.
First witnesses current and former Chief Constables.
The exact words used by the Committee Member (ETA: Nicola Blackwood) to describe the threat to the researcher were :
"She was threatened in her car at night by two police officers who told her 'Wouldn't it be a bad thing if some of these men found out where you lived', and she feared for her life".
Apparently when the researchers materials were removed from the Risky Business offices the persons involved (more than one) were seen by a caretaker. They had the key combination (presumably to offices) and cabinet keys. Supposedly only 5 known people (presumably outside the project) had these. No police investigation. Suggestion later in the session of people being advised 'not to report' the incident. Not stated by whom. SYP can 'find no record' of these events.
Police officers involved in the incident where victims arrested for drunkeness identified. One now retired. Matter to be referred to IPCC. Other incidents mentioned at last weeks session being investigated.
13 more victims have come forward since last week.
There have been 68 convictions for CSE since start of 2013. (Not clear over what area - presumably whole SYP).
ETA : Committee had been supplied with a list of prosecutions and convictions and observed that it appeared to involve repeat offenders.
David Crompton stated that he is now 'negotiating' with National Crime Agency to run independent investigation. A former Chief Constable to head it has been identified. Presumably not the former SYP Chief Constable sitting next to him who got something of a monstering from the committee for his repeated claim that he had been unaware of the "scale and scope" of the CSE.
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butchersapron
Bring back hanging
No it didn't. Please point to your "caveat that it might be horseshit ".
Edit And you, fingers, are going to get away with it because the above is more important and i'm letting you off the hook.
Fingers
From Tuscany SE22
I stand corrected, there was no caveat, I am still not sold either way on that story and at the time there was certainly a press interest in it even though it did not get published. Hope that clears thing up.
Back on topic, my friend was at the EDL court case in the north east for the trial and sentencing two weeks ago, and he will be at the court case for the further trial on the new charges whenever the dates for this are, so I am quite confident you will be reading about it in the next few weeks or so.
Back on topic, my friend was at the EDL court case in the north east for the trial and sentencing two weeks ago, and he will be at the court case for the further trial on the new charges whenever the dates for this are, so I am quite confident you will be reading about it in the next few weeks or so.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Especially as the police have always had the power to take forward cases regardless of an active complaint.
bluescreen
tofu eating wokerati
Not really convinced that the ethnicity of the perps is really relevant except as an excuse to exploit and an excuse to ignore. The main issue is gangs who are into drugs and other rackets, which can flourish in any tight-knit and marginalised community, cf Mafia in the US.Or all 3
Aylesbury is the latest town 11 men so far arrestted asian men again
bluescreen
tofu eating wokerati
Tbh it's worrying that the focus on Kashmiri gangs is deflecting attention from other racketeers.
ETA racketeers, not rackets. The rackets are usually the same sort of thing whoever runs them.
ETA racketeers, not rackets. The rackets are usually the same sort of thing whoever runs them.
bluescreen
tofu eating wokerati
Good grief. This is heartbreaking.
http://www.theguardian.com/society/...ually-abused-child-care-homes-video-interview
http://www.theguardian.com/society/...ually-abused-child-care-homes-video-interview
1%er
Well-Known Member
Interesting BBC documentary from 2011(didn't see it posted on this thread).
Adil Ray investigates the grooming of young girls for sex by Pakistani men in the UK.
Adil Ray investigates the grooming of young girls for sex by Pakistani men in the UK.
bluescreen
tofu eating wokerati
Ugh. What's 'Pakistani' got to do with anything? Is this emphasis on ethnicity remotely helpful or does it serve to feed prejudice?
1%er
Well-Known Member
Because that it what the documentary is about. If you have an issue with the "ethnicity" I recommend you take it up with Adil Ray, for it is he who decided to make the issue/documentary about "Pakistani men".
If you bother to watch just the first 5 minutes you'd may be understand more
Is taken from the BBC site, it is how they have described the program
bluescreen
tofu eating wokerati
Ugh. I will watch, though the whole approach sounds dodgy and playing to stereotypes.
1%er
Well-Known Member
Maybe you should watch it before you comment about it
bluescreen
tofu eating wokerati
Still wondering if Pakistanis have been unfairly targeted. If the offences are evenly ethnically distributed there will be thousands more perpetrated by the white community. See the statistics.
https://fullfact.org/factchecks/race_and_sex_offences-27153
https://fullfact.org/factchecks/race_and_sex_offences-27153
bluescreen
tofu eating wokerati
And yeah, I have an issue with the ethnicity of offenders if people are taking ethnicity as a first category. It is rubbish compared with income, level of education etc.
1%er
Well-Known Member
Stop "wondering" and watch it, until you do you are posting from a perspective of ignorance. See what Adil Ray a journalist who describes himself as a British Pakistani has to say, rather than just posting from your perspective, having not watched what he has to say.
bluescreen
tofu eating wokerati
God that's a crap programme. The first question I want to ask is how many white men are getting off. Is the number of arrests and convictions proportionate?
1%er
Well-Known Member
Well your view differs from mine, as I think it was interesting and showed the Pakistani community in a good light.
So you watched an almost hour long documentary in well under an hour, interesting.
bluescreen
tofu eating wokerati
The programme is heavily edited for drama. Ugh.
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