Roosh V, Pro-Rape Pick Up Artist, Announces Worldwide 'Tribal Meetings'
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Ding ding! We have a winner. You are 110% correct. Show me a man who calls himself a feminist and I'll tell you--as I've told everyone on this thread--"watch what they do, not what they say." It's a good rule for life in general actually.
I think that's on the way out.
As recently as 20 years ago, being "slut-shamed" was still something to be feared, and by many women avoided at all costs. Today however many (perhaps most) women will simply laugh at any such slur. In another 20 years it will have lost its power to hurt altogether.
Hypergamy is women's free choice. It is what (most) women do when they can do what they like.
bimble
floofy
if anyone is still thinking that "hypergamy" as used by Dwyer & Roosh actually means anything at all, this 2 minute educational film from Men Going Their Own Way might help.Hypergamy does not exist, it's just a cry of rage against women who hurt your feelings in some way.
Hypergamy Doesn’t Care
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Expectations that were realistic for their fathers, like dating a few different women in their youth, then marrying one at around 30 years old.
That's no longer a realistic expectation for many young men (again, see Roosh and company). It's no longer realistic because, to put it bluntly, 80% of women are chasing 20% of men. And the women are doing this because they can, because that's what they want to do. This unprecedented freedom for women is literally intolerable to a certain kind of young man.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
another deployment of the dwyer phallacy
About 60% of women would find him attractive, on the basis of looks. But whether they'd find him attractive in real life will depend on factors other then looks.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
how do you feel about your wife knowing she was attracted to your status and not to you?
mentalchik
"I say we take off and nuke the site from orbit."
Yes, and yes.
Now, hegemony doesn't just arise out of nowhere. It arises out of specific social circumstances, it is a response to objective social conditions. The cultural hegemony of this madness among weird young men is a sociopathic and hysterical response to women's unprecedented liberty to select their own sexual partners.
mentalchik
"I say we take off and nuke the site from orbit."
ItWillNeverWork
Messy Crimbobs, fellow humans.
What the fuck is hypergamy when it's at home?
Bullshit.
There is no-one with gravitas involved in this insanity. There couldn't be, it's sociopathy. It is the domain of the deranged. Where is this gravitas of which you speak?
Being sexually attracted to people of superior social status to oneself.
bimble
floofy
ItWillNeverWork
Messy Crimbobs, fellow humans.
Oh. I didn't realise this was a thing. Well you learn something new every day.
Hypergamy does not exist, it's just a cry of rage against women who hurt your feelings in some way.
Hypergamy Doesn’t Care
Check the casual, automatic racism at 50 seconds. That's the connection that Bernie was alluding to, or part of it, right there.
What that video shows is men discovering what women have always known: sexual attraction knows no morality.
Bernie Gunther
Fundamentalist Druid
Is 'women's unprecedented liberty to select their own sexual partners' the only 'objective social condition' that matters in your interpretation ... ?
... or are you just prioritising it over all the other ones that were being discussed a couple of pages back because it's more fun as wind-up material?
Well I suppose you could argue its an epiphenomenon based on de-industrialization or somesuch.
Personally though, I think hegemonic processes are relatively autonomous--in other words they don't have to be explained by reference to anything else. And the freedom of women to select their sexual partners is a rather important development in its own right.
Ask Jerry Hall ...What definition of sexual attraction are you using for this to be sexually attractive?
bimble
floofy
Of all people, you think she needed the money?
You think she'd be with him if he was a road-sweeper?
bimble
floofy
If the road sweeper was very clever / funny or whatever possibly. Shes not someone I'd have picked as an example of your hypergamy theory.
She's the perfect example.
She could pretty much have any guy she wants. So what does she want? Does she want a ripped toyboy? No she does not. She marries "up," even though her circumstances mean that marrying "up" greatly restricts her choices. She does it anyway.
Do you think a man in her situation would have chosen a wrinkly 80 year-old woman?
Bernie Gunther
Fundamentalist Druid
I just don't buy anything that sounds like a single cause here.
There are multiple questions in need of answers, each complex enough to demand a multi-causal explanation:
1) Why are young men looking for sexual enlightenment from other men marketing themselves as PUA gurus?
2) Why are they conceiving the whole business in terms of (quasi-magical?) techniques applied to depersonalised prey?
3) Why are they bonding online with other men around such activities and occasionally terrorising women in self-organised packs?
4) How are they constructing the 'insane' (and in some cases quite evidently dangerous) forms of anti-feminist subjectivity that you mentioned earlier?
5) Why are they formulating conspiracy theories about society outside their group and why do those theories sound so similar to those of racial supremacists?
I'm sure I'll think of some more in a minute ...
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