beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
He needs to look in one of his mirrorseditor said:I suspect it's not going to match your own self image.
He needs to look in one of his mirrorseditor said:I suspect it's not going to match your own self image.
editor said:You might be surprised what 'reasonable posters' with good memories might think of you, fela.
I suspect it's not going to match your own self image.
editor said:In most of those threads, the pro-conspiracy posters have often been one of the biggest - if not the biggest - contributors.
You keep trotting out this lazy bullshit that (guffaw) 'truthseekers' are somehow given an unfair ride on urban, but the truth is that they stand (and inevitably fall) on the strengths of their arguments, just like anyone else.
fela fan said:I'm only talking for myself and any other people who want answers to so many dodgy aspects about the events, and who have expressed the belief that complicity is more than a possibility, ie who suspect that this was the case.
butchersapron said:Oh quite, we so rarely see you on thread such as this.
And last week Chomsky was the only thing causing any doubts in your mind that 911 was a conspiracy - util you built yourself a trap out of your assumptions of what he's believe that i happily pushed you into and suddenly Chomsky was some sort of idiot. Suprising that eh?
It is the same with so much "criticism" of officialdom. The critics over-egg the pudding so much that the genuine points are lost in the blizzard of shite. And even when officialdom does recognise that there is a valid point, the blizzard of shite gives them plenty of opportunity to obfuscate or ignore.Roadkill said:Genuine, non-paranoid scepticism about the 'official version' tends to get squeezed out.
Let's put that claim to the test on this thread:fela fan said:It's most likely that you are the biggest contributor to these threads.
Whoops! Wrong again, fela!ymu 42
butchersapron 39
Aldebaran 25
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Bob_the_lost 19
fela fan 16
butchersapron said:And in what way then are you not a conspiracy theorist?
fela said:He really is a top class commentator on american foreign policy and i always found it one of my doubts about what happened being that chomsky had never intimated that it could have been something to do with an inside story.
Either way, i have more regard for my own thinking than chomsky's.
editor said:Let's put that claim to the test on this thread:
Whoops! Wrong again, fela!
fela fan said:In every way.
I have nothing to do with conspiracies, how can i, i neither hold power or want it.
Furthermore my interest in 911 lies in the dodgy stuff surrounding the events, not in any theories. I have no time for theories or conspiracies, complete waste of time in my life to worry about such stuff.
That is an emphatic nothing to do with them at all. But you seem to have serious problems accepting what i tell you. You've even blatantly called me a liar before, so no worries, you either believe what i say about myself or you believe i'm a liar. Your call mate, nothing to do with me.
butchersapron said:You honestly can't follow a stright line from one of your posts to the next can you?
This is when you assumed that he agreed with you, when i poointed out that no, on the contrary he attacks you and people like you, suddenly:
And this morning for example - you claim not to be a conspiracy theorist in one post then in the next you say that you believe the US was complicit in the 911 attacks. All in the space of about 15 minutes.
butchersapron said:I believe that you're liar and deluded as well for the record as you seem to want an answer.
fela fan said:Now just be satisfied with yourself that you take me to be a liar and leave it at that. How do you expect to have a decent debate with who you feel to be a liar? Why do you bother?
butchersapron said:That's not an error fela, that's a sensible thing to do and one of the reasons that i'm not as gullible as you and your conspiracy theorist mates - a shocking lack of a important critical faculty on your part - it's why you lot are taken in by duff sources time and time over.
butchersapron said:I don't expect to have a decent debate with you fela, no one does anymore. Why do i bother? I like to see what knots you can tie yourself in now and again and what heights of slef-deluding gibberish you can reach.
Of course i fucking read up on it, even if i hadn't the answers are easy to find.fela fan said:How long did it take for them to hear though bob? And you'll know the answer i presume since you have read up on it.
Timeline carefully reproduced by 8den here: http://www.urban75.net/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=6315898&postcount=1280813 AA11 is hijacked. Short after its transponder is turned off
0820 AA11 turns off its IFF (Identify Friend-or-Foe) beacon and begins deviating from its scheduled flight path
0824 AA11 makes a 100 degree turn and heads for New York City
0837 Boston Centre notifies NEADS of the hijacking of AA11 and requests an aircraft scramble. This is the first incident of the morning.
0844 Despite having no coordinates for intercept, NEADS decide to launch the Otis aircraft anyway.
Bob_the_lost said:Of course i fucking read up on it, even if i hadn't the answers are easy to find.
Timeline carefully reproduced by 8den here: http://www.urban75.net/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=6315898&postcount=128
No his source is a a carefully produced post that uses the available information that has not been contradicted by anyone. There's no point in duplicating the work when it is freely available.fela fan said:So your source is some character on urban is it?
*Three seconds research later:fela fan said:So your source is some character on urban is it?
fela fan said:So your source is some character on urban is it?
Jesus, it really is too easy , isn't it?editor said:*Three seconds research later:
editor said:*Three seconds research later:
No. The original is from here:
http://www.debunk911myths.org/topics/index.php?title=NORAD
Be sure to offer your critique and highlight the damning flaws.
beesonthewhatnow said:Jesus, it really is too easy , isn't it?
Come on conspiraloons, at least try and make it a wee bit difficult to show what twats you are
Are you going to offer your critique and highlight the damning flaws in that article or not?fela fan said:On what basis do you decide that this particular website is able to provide you with facts that you are so freely able to accept on their say so? You are so quick to deride certain sites, so i'm wondering what factors you require that allow you to decide a site so able to present facts for you.
8den said:Actually fucknuts it's sourced it from a Vanity Fair article on the NORAD tapes.