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Remainers: When are you taking to the streets?

For any who wouldn't find the idea of restricting voting based on education repugnant anyway (i can't believe there are any here, but rather I'm addressing the implication from some articles for general information), I'd like to point to actual statistics from Ashcroft's poll that are being much abused.

University degree + Higher University degree in the polling split 3750 remain (58%) / 2634 leave (42%). Couple this with the accepted difference given the known age preference of voters (less older people have degrees shock). Here's a comparative stat for you, in 1970 less than 10% of school leavers went to university and in 2010 it was around 40%. Educational attainment seriously doesn't look like a factor unless it suits someone's purpose to say so. We can argue the implications of age in the vote, sure, but any statistician can tell you education isn't the big correlation.
A bloke I work with (public school/cambridge degree) keeps on about IQ tests for voting... completely missing the irony that Cameron (or Johnson), with the "best education money can buy", has shown levels of ignorance and incompetence that by his standards could only be attributed to someone who doesnt even posess a single state school GCSE.
Fucking snobs make my piss boil
 
A bloke I work with (public school/cambridge degree) keeps on about IQ tests for voting... completely missing the irony that Cameron (or Johnson), with the "best education money can buy", has shown levels of ignorance and incompetence that by his standards could only be attributed to someone who doesnt even posess a single state school GCSE.
Fucking snobs make my piss boil
Very Liberal. Very plural voting à la JSM.
 
Youthful clean cut Remainers setting up a "Referendum: Cakes & Conversation" stall in Reading town centre as I type.
 
Did you point out that we've already had the vote and they lost?
passers-by telling them that is inevitable but there's likely to be organised counter-campaigning as well, with 'A50 Now' stalls setting up around the country, quite possibly across the street from this sort. We'll see how much resonance their competing views have with the public (and which public and where) over the next few weeks.

I suspect we're entering what's likely to be a period of self-activity leading to new organisational formations for battles ahead. The people in Reading and those protesting this afternoon in traf sq and elsewhere are a little ahead of the curve. Who are they? Youthful and cleancut they may be but that's a demographic not political description and doesn't explain how they've organised to have a stall. Is this something ad-hoc from facebook or does it spring from pre-existing mainstream organisation, ie are they simultaneously applying to join the Labour Party, have they got a May/Leadsom/Gove vote, do they think the LDs have any relevance to anything? or are they outside established parliamentary parties, in which case where are the strings and who is pulling them??

educate is ongoing
agitate is starting
organise is coming

The questions will be how to do that, who to side with, how to effectively counter the pro-neo-liberal right wing dominance of all sides.
 
A bloke I work with (public school/cambridge degree) keeps on about IQ tests for voting... completely missing the irony that Cameron (or Johnson), with the "best education money can buy", has shown levels of ignorance and incompetence that by his standards could only be attributed to someone who doesnt even posess a single state school GCSE.
Fucking snobs make my piss boil
Missing that people who are so incurious about the reason for the result are hardly likely to be intelligent either. Ask him to show you the mathematical workings for education level correlation when age is removed as a factor, the figures are all available publicly.
 
Ah, well then I applaud him.

Presumably the invitations go out when people sign up to "Breentry" and other protest sites via Facebook?
 
I can't help but notice the huge numbers of very young people in these protests. A couple of my colleagues fit into the youngest vote bracket and say they voted Remain, but they seem quite sanguine about the result, having researched and therefore seeing bad as well as good about the EU. The stats suggest only 36% of under 25s turned up to vote (which will be based on the number actually registered), so how much is social media led hysteria and how much is real sentiment or knowledge? 2 out of 3 of them can't have missed that the referendum was taking place nor that the outcome was expected to be close.
 
Possibly young people are less cynical so are more inclined to believe the doom laden hysteria from Gideon and his crew?
 
I hope the Met's FIT teams are documenting all these enemies of democracy.
:D

they don't see themselves like that, of course. I've had messages from friends asking why I'm not there but find myself reluctant to say 'cos I don't agree with it' as I don't want to start falling out with anyone this early into the coming battles.
 
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