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maomao said:
I believe she's getting attention from pupil and family services though they're understandably busy and no teacher has demanded she sit down or do anything she doesn't feel comfortable with. The rooms are well ventilated and the form room in particular is a large woodwork room where she could grab a whole workbench to herself. Meanwhile more worryingly the boys at the other end of the room constantly wrestle with each other, forget their masks regularly and have been heard whispering that covid isn't real.
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Yikes
 
spanglechick said:
Govt website says temp of 38.5 minimum, and/or persistent cough.

Edit. And/or loss of smell / taste.
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I haven't seen 38.5 anywhere - initially I think it stated 37.8 but a few months ago changed to just raised temperature/hot to the touch.
A persistent/continuous cough is coughing a lot for an hour, or three episodes of coughing in 24 hours eg basically any cough.
www.gov.uk

Order COVID-19 rapid lateral flow tests

You can no longer order free PCR tests from the NHS.
www.gov.uk www.gov.uk
www.nhs.uk

COVID-19 symptoms and what to do

Find out about the symptoms of COVID-19, what to do if you or your child has them and when to get medical help.
www.nhs.uk www.nhs.uk
 
SpookyFrank said:
The school I'm working in is relatively normal. Kids still move between classrooms so science is taught in science labs etc. The timetable is largely unchanged. But this is only possible because it's a small school in the middle of nowhere which has seen just three covid cases since September and no transmission amongst students or staff. This despite the fact that staff, wearing masks, are allowed to actually move among the kids and engage with them and their work.

Reports from elsewhere sound like hell on earth. Teachers in some schools are expected to teach two and a half hour lessons, and then spend their breaktimes out in the cold policing students' every movement. No books can be marked, no engagement with individual students is possible. I struggle to see what the point is of kids being in school in those circumstances tbh. And those cicrumstances seem to apply in most schools in the country. Bleak as fuck :(
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None of the three schools I'm connected to are like that. In fact they probably need a few more restrictions and are more like your school. All 3 - where I teach and the two my sons go to- are in London.
 
It was bitterly cold at work today (the doors are kept open all day) and still there were teachers giving kids shit for wearing official school hoodies under their blazers, which covid-era school policy says they're allowed to do. You've got to be some kind of weirdo to give a shit about school uniforms at a time like this. But then tbf you've got to be some kind of weirdo to give a shit about school uniforms at any time.
 
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SpookyFrank said:
It was bitterly cold at work today (the doors are kept open all day) and still there were teachers giving kids shit for wearing official school hoodies under their blazers, which covid-era school policy says they're allowed to do. You've got to be some kind of weirdo to give a shit about school uniforms at a time like this. But then tbf you've got to be some kimd of weirdo to give a shit about school uniforms at any time.
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All the kids at my school wear coats or hoodies as the windows are open. It feels so much better than having them all dressed identically and you can tell they feel more comfortable. I've been told not to let them have their hoods up in class but as long as they're not doing it to hide the fact they're sleeping I don't really mnd.
 
Thora said:
I haven't seen 38.5 anywhere - initially I think it stated 37.8 but a few months ago changed to just raised temperature/hot to the touch.
A persistent/continuous cough is coughing a lot for an hour, or three episodes of coughing in 24 hours eg basically any cough.
www.gov.uk

Order COVID-19 rapid lateral flow tests

You can no longer order free PCR tests from the NHS.
www.gov.uk www.gov.uk
www.nhs.uk

COVID-19 symptoms and what to do

Find out about the symptoms of COVID-19, what to do if you or your child has them and when to get medical help.
www.nhs.uk www.nhs.uk
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You’re right! I misremembered the 37.8 thing from last time I was under the weather. And then I guess I imposed that on what I read today (because I had a rotten headache). Although at that time I hadn’t taken my temperature anyway.

So I guess I was entitled to a test after all.
 
SpookyFrank said:
It was bitterly cold at work today (the doors are kept open all day) and still there were teachers giving kids shit for wearing official school hoodies under their blazers, which covid-era school policy says they're allowed to do. You've got to be some kind of weirdo to give a shit about school uniforms at a time like this. But then tbf you've got to be some kind of weirdo to give a shit about school uniforms at any time.
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What about the argument that it cuts a lot of crap out regarding the wealthier (or in my case indebted) parents and their kids not being able to stand out and use their clothing as another way to ostracise, and bully?
 
Jay Park said:
What about the argument that it cuts a lot of crap out regarding the wealthier (or in my case indebted) parents and their kids not being able to stand out and use their clothing as another way to ostracise, and bully?
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we have had this on other threads, but to summarise

a - an expensive uniform that's only available from selected suppliers, and changing something every now and then is one way schools try to weed out kids from poorer families going to their school in the first place

b - kids can still tell whether someone's wearing an 'official' blazer or a cheap one with the badge sewn in or a tatty second hand one, or whether they are wearing last year's trousers that are now a bit too short and have been mended too often, and they can also notice the things that are non-uniform like shoes, bags, pens, whether you've had a smart haircut or something crap done by your mum and all the rest of it.

IF everything was issued free, replaced without argument when it was worn out / grown out of, then maybe i'd agree with it...
 
Puddy_Tat said:
we have had this on other threads, but to summarise

a - an expensive uniform that's only available from selected suppliers, and changing something every now and then is one way schools try to weed out kids from poorer families going to their school in the first place

b - kids can still tell whether someone's wearing an 'official' blazer or a cheap one with the badge sewn in or a tatty second hand one, or whether they are wearing last year's trousers that are now a bit too short and have been mended too often, and they can also notice the things that are non-uniform like shoes, bags, pens, whether you've had a smart haircut or something crap done by your mum and all the rest of it.

IF everything was issued free, replaced without argument when it was worn out / grown out of, then maybe i'd agree with it...
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so it’s another stealth tax on the working class then?

thanks for taking the time to clear that up.

though remembering own clothes days, it was purely an opportunity for kids to show off their besties. I got fucking hammered for wearing a Goofy tracksuit in year 4, admittedly this in Lower Broughton and at the time the 5th most impoverished borough in England (the irony). And we weren’t wearing these expensive blazers either, just 20 quid Sweater and Polo combos and dark trousers. Though I see the school has now switched from supplying their own uniforms to a specialist supplier.

St Sebastian's RC Primary Archives - Whittakers School Wear

www.whittakersschoolwear.co.uk www.whittakersschoolwear.co.uk
 
Puddy_Tat said:
we have had this on other threads, but to summarise

a - an expensive uniform that's only available from selected suppliers, and changing something every now and then is one way schools try to weed out kids from poorer families going to their school in the first place

b - kids can still tell whether someone's wearing an 'official' blazer or a cheap one with the badge sewn in or a tatty second hand one, or whether they are wearing last year's trousers that are now a bit too short and have been mended too often, and they can also notice the things that are non-uniform like shoes, bags, pens, whether you've had a smart haircut or something crap done by your mum and all the rest of it.

IF everything was issued free, replaced without argument when it was worn out / grown out of, then maybe i'd agree with it...
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as for b. Kids are gonna be nasty about whatever they can sink their teeth into, adults too
 
Jay Park said:
What about the argument that it cuts a lot of crap out regarding the wealthier (or in my case indebted) parents and their kids not being able to stand out and use their clothing as another way to ostracise, and bully?
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My experience is that uniforms are an excuse for adults to 'legitimately' ostracise and bully kids, particularly kids from poorer families.

Kids getting singled out for uniform infractions during covid, when the whole place is freezing fucking cold and the uniform is not fit for purpose, is unconscionsable IMO. I know a lot of my colleagues agree with me but it's the senior people who are the worst for it so what can you do.
 
miss direct said:
Do any teachers wear masks, or is it a case of whipping them on and off all day?
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I wear a mask when near kids in class or in when corridors etc. This is what official policy says we should do. But the only place we have to eat or drink is the tiny department office which often has six or seven people in it, so realisitically if anyone in our department got sick all of us should be confined to quarters. What the actual rule is I couldn't tell you, it's somewhere in a 30 page risk assessment apparently written by someone who has never been to a school before.
 
miss direct said:
Do any teachers wear masks, or is it a case of whipping them on and off all day?
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I do (FE)
I try to keep it on at all times. I take it off to have lunch in our department's office but it goes back on when i'm just in there on the computer.
Others put it on in the corridor but have it off in the office and/or classroom.
Some also opt for the face shield but not mask.
 
Thank you. I start a job in a school in the New Year. I've been volunteering this year and always wear a mask but don't know about the new school. I will wear it, but am wondering if they will be weird about it.
 
I didn't think my contempt for the government could get much deeper, but the direction to LB Greenwich to keep their schools open or face legal action has just ramped it down a notch.

It's not just utter folly in the case of a rapidly spreading pandemic, it also shows no regard for local knowledge or local autonomy.
 
maomao said:
I only wear it in communal areas. The excuse is that my school is a resource base for hearing impaired students and students need to be able to lipread but in reality half my classes don't have deaf kids in them.
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Most staff at my school have clear visors. I was encouraged to get one, as we also have kids who lipread. I wear a visor in class, a mask in corridors.
 
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