Thora
Differently Ethical
I don't think there is any point to a visor without a mask. It just stops anyone spitting in your eyes.
Re-opening Schools?
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Shippou-Sensei
4:1:2.5
Good luck
I hope the place will be sensible.
The only good reason I could think of having a policy against it would be for those who rely on lip reading or other visual clues for communication but I would hope you could use something like speech to text on the projector for that.
Shippou-Sensei
4:1:2.5
That's my thought on that as well.
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
When you see the amount of spittle you have to wipe off the inside of it between classes you can see it's doing something. But it almost certainly doesn't provide me any protection from anything.
I have a visor with glasses-type frames. I also wear glasses. And I teach chemistry, which requires goggles. There is a non-sustainable amount of stuff balanced on my nose much of the time.
planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
Keep the schools open in this crucial last week of term! There are videos to be watched and Christmas cards to be made!
I'm WFH now but when I was in school I wore one all the time. It became policy in Wales a few weeks ago to do so in all communal areas, corridors etc. And yet still some staff don't/won't. Pissed me off (the not wearing ones). Glad to be out of there.
I'm WFH now but when I was in school I wore one all the time. It became policy in Wales a few weeks ago to do so in all communal areas, corridors etc. And yet still some staff don't/won't. Pissed me off (the not wearing ones). Glad to be out of there.
Shippou-Sensei
4:1:2.5
A quick look online suggests that early predictions thought that the virus wouldn't remain airborne for any great length of time so a face shield would help.
Not so much of that now.
Not so much of that now.
maomao
普費斯
I think the jury's out on whether visors do any good or not.
Sorry wrote this before reading the dozen posts on the subject above.
spanglechick
High Empress of Dressing Up
I don’t wear a mask as drama classrooms are noisy bastard places and the kids couldn’t understand me and wanted to get really close. When the whole class is quiet I am also able to distance anyway.
I guess if you reach a desk-based, quiet subject you could be understood with a mask on.
Our offices have maximum occupancy rules now. Normally nine of us share an office with six desks in (not hot desking. Just cosying up. We now have a maximum of four, if we don’t use the middle desk on each side, or if someone does use that desk it’s fewer because we can’t use the desks on either side.
Staff have set up exam desks in the corridor to eat their lunch/ work on a laptop. We can do this without too much annoying passing traffic because our office is (a)in the sixth form location bubble and (b) on the top floor of the school, so we don’t get anyone “just passing”.
It’s shit though. Even those teachers who normally have their own teaching room (not really possible in the performing arts) don’t have that luxury this year because of the location bubbles. There’s nowhere you can just put your handbag/lunch/coat and leave yourself logged in for the day.
I guess if you reach a desk-based, quiet subject you could be understood with a mask on.
Our offices have maximum occupancy rules now. Normally nine of us share an office with six desks in (not hot desking. Just cosying up. We now have a maximum of four, if we don’t use the middle desk on each side, or if someone does use that desk it’s fewer because we can’t use the desks on either side.
Staff have set up exam desks in the corridor to eat their lunch/ work on a laptop. We can do this without too much annoying passing traffic because our office is (a)in the sixth form location bubble and (b) on the top floor of the school, so we don’t get anyone “just passing”.
It’s shit though. Even those teachers who normally have their own teaching room (not really possible in the performing arts) don’t have that luxury this year because of the location bubbles. There’s nowhere you can just put your handbag/lunch/coat and leave yourself logged in for the day.
Indeliblelink
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Government considering delay to the start of next term.
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What a load of bollocks. So they wouldn't close schools now when they're on their knees, then they're going to do nothing to stop the increase of cases, then add to the cases by having free rein over Christmas and then they're going to close schools. Wtf. And primary schools are also on their knees at the moment, between my two boys, we've had someone at home isolating every week for the last 6.Government considering delay to the start of next term.
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Hope you're feeling better spanglechick ?
spanglechick
High Empress of Dressing Up
More well than ill today! It feels like a tipping point.
Same over here.
A principal and board of management of a small country school decided to close after 10% of students were diagnosed with covid and numbers of staff...including the teaching principal. The school has 125 pupils shared between 4 classrooms. No substitute teachers wanted to work there because the incidence of covid in the community and school were high. So the school board decided for health and safety reasons to close early for Christmas.
The Dept of Ed instructed them to reopen on Monday. Only 7 pupils are attending now and the principal has stated that he is considering his position.
It looks like come hell or high water they want schools to remain open
StoneRoad
heckling from the back!
I'm beginning to wonder if our local spike in cases started out in the local secondary school, just about after the half term break.
The timing and spread of cases in the area seems to fit.
Some examples I've been told about ...
Manager of a neighbouring company to where I work has just been confirmed as having caught covid off his kids, who brought it back from that particular school.
Plus a staff member at a local take-away and her two kids have it - the older kid goes to that same school and showed symptoms first (by nearly a week compared to mum and the younger kid, who came out almost together, whilst isolating).
The largest local employer has several staff off with covid, most of whom have kids at the school in question (although some of the people who work there apparently went to Spain on holiday so this is probably a chicken and the egg question).
The timing and spread of cases in the area seems to fit.
Some examples I've been told about ...
Manager of a neighbouring company to where I work has just been confirmed as having caught covid off his kids, who brought it back from that particular school.
Plus a staff member at a local take-away and her two kids have it - the older kid goes to that same school and showed symptoms first (by nearly a week compared to mum and the younger kid, who came out almost together, whilst isolating).
The largest local employer has several staff off with covid, most of whom have kids at the school in question (although some of the people who work there apparently went to Spain on holiday so this is probably a chicken and the egg question).
elbows
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Yes I tend not to be looking for single sources of outbreak, and rather think about it in terms of settings that amplify and further spread infection in the area, and all sorts of feedback loops. Its just the same when I consider hospital infections - these things often serve as the visible tip of the iceberg, and outbreaks in such settings are almost inevitable once levels of virus in the community at large have reached a certain size. These institutional clusters of cases more easily come to the attention of authorities, but also involve places that can increase infection numbers and then those people go back into the local community, perpetuating and expanding cycles of infection.
Also pictures that are painted by authorities, often involving by data this is analysed and released once a week, that show particular settings and age groups suffering big increases in cases in a particular place, usually invite an out of date picture before the paint is even dry. Things have usually moved on since then, and we end up perpetually focussing one step behind.
I want schools open but I want the government to tighten up everything else to allow this to happen.Same over here.
A principal and board of management of a small country school decided to close after 10% of students were diagnosed with covid and numbers of staff...including the teaching principal. The school has 125 pupils shared between 4 classrooms. No substitute teachers wanted to work there because the incidence of covid in the community and school were high. So the school board decided for health and safety reasons to close early for Christmas.
The Dept of Ed instructed them to reopen on Monday. Only 7 pupils are attending now and the principal has stated that he is considering his position.
It looks like come hell or high water they want schools to remain open
And if you're going to lose a week, the last few days before Christmas seems like a good choice. But more than that, schools where I am are literally just folding right now due to so many positives.
elbows
Well-Known Member
Ah here we are, right on time:
Covid cases in schools 'reflect community levels'
Pupils and staff have infection rates which mirror rates outside the school gates, a study found.
www.bbc.co.uk
trashpony
Hag
We have grammar schools in Kent which means kids come from a much bigger catchment area to the grammars than they do the comps. Most people I know with several secondary aged kids have kids in more than one school. It's not really surprising that infection rates are so high here
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
Looks like English schools will start up again as scheduled in January but with some years possibly starting later than others. It's real back-of-an-envelope stuff as always.
MickiQ
In My Defence I was left Unsupervised
Mrs Q has been headhunted by a recruitment agency, it looks like there is a growing demand for teachers (especially STEM which are always in short supply) to teach online classes as some schools move online. Some wide boy has seen the opportunity to make money by trying to headhunt teachers from some schools to teach other schools online.
I'm workinf from home and trying to upskill staff on teaching online.
It's not easy cos there is some resistance.
gaijingirl
Well-Known Member
It's allegedly so that they can set up and train up staff (who?) to administer CV19 tests. My headteacher was delighted to receive that announcement about an hour before our whole-school farewell/thank you zoom meeting. I really do despise this stupid government who seem incapable of having the courage to make the right decisions at the right time - too busy writing stupid, threatening letters to schools folding under the pressure of the huge rise in CV19 cases right now. I feel awful for him and the rest of our senior leadership.
Details of school mass-testing rollout revealed
Handbook issued to schools reveals extent of schools' responsibilities from January
schoolsweek.co.uk
Both my kids are now home self-isolating now.
It's allegedly so that they can set up and train up staff (who?) to administer CV19 tests. My headteacher was delighted to receive that announcement about an hour before our whole-school farewell/thank you zoom meeting. I really do despise this stupid government who seem incapable of having the courage to make the right decisions at the right time - too busy writing stupid, threatening letters to schools folding under the pressure of the huge rise in CV19 cases right now. I feel awful for him and the rest of our senior leadership.
Details of school mass-testing rollout revealed
Handbook issued to schools reveals extent of schools' responsibilities from January
Both my kids are now home self-isolating now.
That's right gaijingirl. It's not actually their general incompetence or right wing fuckery that annoys me most, it's their cowardice that gives me the rage.Their cowardice that leaves other people to face the potential angry backlash and worse consequences. I'm more angry about this than I have been for a while.
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
It's allegedly so that they can set up and train up staff (who?) to administer CV19 tests. My headteacher was delighted to receive that announcement about an hour before our whole-school farewell/thank you zoom meeting. I really do despise this stupid government who seem incapable of having the courage to make the right decisions at the right time - too busy writing stupid, threatening letters to schools folding under the pressure of the huge rise in CV19 cases right now. I feel awful for him and the rest of our senior leadership.
Details of school mass-testing rollout revealed
Handbook issued to schools reveals extent of schools' responsibilities from January
Both my kids are now home self-isolating now.
Yeah, 'what fucking staff' is the key question. Whoever they are, good luck getting all of them DBS cleared by Janauary 4th...
gaijingirl
Well-Known Member
Well they got the army to do it in recent trials up north. Some people are worried it will be TAs. Who knows frankly.
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
Teaching assistants or Territorial Army?
Because there aren't enough teaching assistants to do the work they've already got
gaijingirl
Well-Known Member
Teaching assistants or Territorial Army?
Because there aren't enough teaching assistants to do the work they've already got
Teaching Assistants.
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
Now staff who should be within reach of a much-needed break face spending christmas rushing about trying to sort out this latest half-arsed, nonsensical bullshit from the government. Union phone lines must be busy.
gaijingirl
Well-Known Member
Fuck's sake
I don't think anyone knows for sure what will happen but there's a lot of anger and worry on various union and teaching forums.
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