RCP/Spiked/IoI

[nino_savatte]

why?

Explain.

Read #446 and work your way backwards up the thread. I'm in no mood to repeat myself.

 

[8ball]

What a pile of made-up shit. If his friends/acquaintances are that censorious, he's got the wrong ones...

He should ditch them all in one go - easiest way would be to start a thread.

Brendan O'Neill now uncritically interviewing Nigel Farage on sp!ked...

http://www.spiked-online.com/newsite/article/im-taking-on-the-establishment-and-they-hate-me-for-it/16758#.VP-AgvysXU8

Privately educated multi-millionaire banker takes on the establishment with his... pint.

 

[J Ed]

Privately educated multi-millionaire banker takes on the establishment with his... pint.

If you want to understand Spiked then read it as if it's an identity politics website but an identity politics website that argues for the identity politics of corporations and bigots.

 

[purves grundy]

I had a crush on an RCP woman when I was a lost 1st year. Went to a few meetings. She was always amazing.

Lost touch when i finally made some friends, heard she went into advertising (which sounds quite 90s , as it was) but I like to think she makes some contribution to Spiked in her spare time.

 

[8ball]

If you want to understand Spiked then read it as if it's an identity politics website but an identity politics website that argues for the identity politics of corporations and bigots.

"identity politics of corporations"?

 

[DaveCinzano]

I had a crush on an RCP woman when I was a lost 1st year. Went to a few meetings. She was always amazing.

Lost touch when i finally made some friends, heard she went into advertising (which sounds quite 90s , as it was) but I like to think she makes some contribution to Spiked in her spare time.

Goldsmiths?

 

[laptop]

"identity politics of corporations"?

Well.... since they won the right to be treated as legal persons, able to sue for defamation and so on...



[/legal technicality]

 

[8ball]

Well.... since they won the right to be treated as legal persons, able to sue for defamation and so on...



[/legal technicality]

Remind me again when corporations won the right to be treated as legal persons in the UK* and also when Spiked argued in favour of this.

* - actually it seems the concept is legally framed totally differently here though there are commonalities like corporations being able to enter into contracts etc. - nothing like the 14th Amendment going on, though. what I really don't get is how to make "identity politics of corporations" mean anything.

 

[laptop]

Remind me again when corporations won the right to be treated as legal persons in the UK* and also when Spiked argued in favour of this.

* - actually it seems the concept is legally framed totally differently here though there are commonalities like corporations being able to enter into contracts etc. - nothing like the 14th Amendment going on, though. what I really don't get is how to make "identity politics of corporations" mean anything.

Who said I was talking parochially of the law of England and Wales?

As you've discovered, something equivalent to the relevant Supreme Court decision exists in that law, but diffusely.

My choice of the possibility of defaming a corporation was a deliberate pointer to a possibility of an identity politics...

Though how you'd construct a hierarchy of oppression for corporations is left as an exercise for the reader

 

[8ball]

Though how you'd construct a hierarchy of oppression for corporations is left as an exercise for the reader

Well yeah, I think this pretty much settles it.

 

[purves grundy]

Goldsmiths?

Nah, Sheffield.

 

[Das Uberdog]

out of interest, years ago i saw a youtube link on another thread to the RCP's version of 'The Redskins'... something about October or something... anyway, they were good as i recall! anyone remember who they were?

 

[killer b]

Easterhouse.

 

[butchersapron]

...as mentioned on this thread even!

 

[killer b]

it's a long thread tbf

 

[chilango]

Were McCarthy RCP too?

Marxman were iirc, but they weren't very good!

 

[butchersapron]

Were McCarthy RCP too?

Marxman were iirc, but they weren't very good!

The bloke was wasn't Tim Gane was i think.

 

[belboid]

The bloke was wasn't Tim Gane was i think.

Are you trying to say 'Malcolm Eden'?

 

[butchersapron]

Are you trying to say 'Malcolm Eden'?

Yes, that seems to be his name.

 

[youngian]

http://www.spiked-online.com/newsite/article/get-the-cops-off-hopkins-twitterfeed/16833#.VR1SzfnF_h5

Few people get up liberal noses like Katie Hopkins. Her commitment to a brand of no-nonsense individualism has landed her in various pools of Guardianista hot water, in which she seems to splash around with irreverent glee, upping the un-PC ante with each 140-character outburst.

And the moribund sub-Littlejohn cliches get worse. Written Luke Gittos who is apparently the 'Law Editor'.

 

[el-ahrairah]

whilst their commitment to upsetting liberals should be applauded, there really is no end to the shit that they will defend.

 

[nino_savatte]

http://www.spiked-online.com/newsite/article/get-the-cops-off-hopkins-twitterfeed/16833#.VR1SzfnF_h5

And the moribund sub-Littlejohn cliches get worse. Written Luke Gittos who is apparently the 'Law Editor'.

Law editor? Fuck me, whatever next?

 

[youngian]

whilst their commitment to upsetting liberals should be applauded, there really is no end to the shit that they will defend.

They're not using the word liberal to debate the shortcomings of John Stuart Mill but in the Fox News loon sense; anyone to the left of Nixon.

 

[Jollity Farm]

A world where "no-nonsense" actually means "a whole bunch of nonsense".

 

[youngian]

Trolling today

UKIP haters: desperately seeking fascism
Following the demise of Britain’s far-right, UKIP has become the great white hope of anti-fascist groups.
It must be hard when something that you’ve spent a good proportion of your life campaigning against simply ceases to exist in any meaningful way. All those hours tirelessly working the streets, handing out leaflets, organising protests; the millions of words you wrote and spoke in commitment to the cause. And then slowly you realise there is no longer any point: the Great Threat you’ve been warning about has gone.

This is the existential dilemma anti-fascist groups such as Hope Not Hate and United Against Fascism (UAF) must surely be facing given the decimation of the far-right British National Party (BNP) and now the implosion of anti-Islamic extremism group the English Defence League (EDL).

http://www.spiked-online.com/newsit...esperately-seeking-fascism/14985#.VSEas_nF_h7


Yes UKIP has been around since the 1990s when it was a pointy head free market party led by Alan Sked. They would do well to seek Sked's views (not exactly a notorious lefty) of the sort of party Farage has moulded.

 

[el-ahrairah]

that's pretty good, but not very original. it sounds like something we've had on here before. maybe one of dwyer's inspired musings.

 

[Spanky Longhorn]

There's some fair points in there.

 

[laptop]

They would do well to seek Sked's views (not exactly a notorious lefty) of the sort of party Farage has moulded.

Not difficult, either, Sked being neither shy nor retiring:

'The party has become a Frankenstein's monster'

 

[DaveCinzano]

-PING-

 

[nino_savatte]

Hilariously confused piece from Brendan O'Neill on the piggate thang. It's his faux outrage at the middle classes that made me laugh. It seems to me that anyone O'Neill doesn't like is 'middle class', even if they're not middle class. What a tool.
This Cameron 'piggate' furore is just pearl-clutching class hatred in disguise