PursuedByBears
Go stick your head in a pig
Penguins maybe?
Prince Harry
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AnnO'Neemus
Is so vanilla
I'm struggling to tell what's true and what's made up now. I mean, after the fight with Willy and the thing about losing his virginity riding like a stallion behind a pub I'm quite prepared to believe he said something like that.
Yossarian
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It's a major title from one of the big publishing houses so there must have been plenty of people who read it before it was published - and Harry worked with a ghostwriter so it's not clear how much of it he even wrote himself.
Agent Sparrow
the age of slippers and migraines
It reads to me like like a man who, despite his enormous financial and cultural privileges, has experienced a whole heap of dysfunctional family crap and been the family scapegoat, all in the very public eye, and that’s going to cause issues for anyone. All his feels have been tightly held in for years but now have been unleashed like a broken dam of incandescent RAGE. Which is why it sounds so adolescent - like many of us can probably empathise with, family matters make his behaviour revert to the age when he left home!
I’m not going to be a dick and try and publicly psychologise a public figure I’ve never met, but if I ever do read the book I’d be more interested with the underlying processes between the lines. The most I would guess is there’s nothing rational about his choice to release it - this is all emotion, and righteousness, and self validation and VENGEANCE. And I totally get the motivation even if I’d never have the sustained interest and resources to do similar.
I’m just looking forward to the full series, with each book written by another Royal 
I liked the “come at me bro” ending to the Taliban’s response quote too.
JimW
支那暗杀团
Or bowl, perhaps.
Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
Correct. Also, Urban has paid far more attention to the royal privilege bubble v California celeb B list privilege bubble bust up than, for example, the Tory legislation banning strikes. But, it’s hard not to. The implosion of the House of Windsor is long overdue and it’s rapid collapse from the inside is glorious.
smmudge
i know the smudge is true
Yeah but shortly after that her lover stabbed her to death
Her lover and nephew. So would fit right in to a royal biography tbf.
Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
What? You mean a man who goes round boasting about how he killed 25 people like they were ‘pieces on a chessboard’? Now that’s not funny
kebabking
Not a Girly Swot, but I like them....
I think the 'funny' bit is the Billy Big Bollocks stuff about riding MILF's and slaying talibs, and then admitting to getting filled in by an RAF bloke....
I rather agree with Agent Sparrow - this is all (and I mean the whole goat rodeo: the move, the spat, the interviews, the book, and not just what's in the book) a wild outpouring of emotion. There's nothing calculated, whether cleverly or foolishly, about it.
I rather doubt there will be any kind of personal reconciliation after this stuff. It's just a better funded version of getting hammered and posting on Facebook that your ex is a slag while you're in the middle of a divorce.
His future, and that of his family, is bleak. He's dropping further down the list of royal importance, he's burned his family bridges, and in order to earn a crust he's going to have to make new allegations for each new media project. He'll not get paid to write a new book that just says the same as the last book...
Interesting parallel for the history buffs is George, Duke of Clarence. Younger brother of Edward IV. His childhood featured panicked escape on a ship to refuge in Belgium at the age of 8/10, the violent death of his father and another older brother, then Edward became king and suddenly he's the Heir to the throne. But Edward then marries - to someone George doesn't like - has a string of children, and George drops down the line of succession like it's going out of fashion. They fall out, George finds new friends - better friends - who use him to rebel against Edward. Eventually Edward, after years of betrayal and realising the George will never be reconciled, and that he'll always be a threat, has him drowned in a dogbowl, I mean barrel of wine...
JimW
支那暗杀团
I mentioned the malmsey butt earlier with George in mind.
Spoiler alert please.
I’m reading the Hollow Crown and it’s just getting to that bit. Henry VI has just been done in.
Yossarian
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I don't know if he was boasting - the quotes that have been published don't really make it clear whether he feels remorse or not, maybe they'll read differently in the context of whatever chapter it's in.
I don't want to be Harry's advocate here and I'm not inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt, but there does seem to be some implied criticism of how the military taught him to dehumanise the enemy.
"It wasn't a statistic that filled me with pride but nor did it make me ashamed," he writes. "When I was plunged into the heat and confusion of battle, I didn't think about those as 25 people. You can't kill people if you see them as people. In truth, you can't hurt people if you see them as people. They were chess pieces taken off the board, bad guys eliminated before they kill good guys. They trained me to 'other' them and they trained me well."
I don't want to be Harry's advocate here and I'm not inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt, but there does seem to be some implied criticism of how the military taught him to dehumanise the enemy.
"It wasn't a statistic that filled me with pride but nor did it make me ashamed," he writes. "When I was plunged into the heat and confusion of battle, I didn't think about those as 25 people. You can't kill people if you see them as people. In truth, you can't hurt people if you see them as people. They were chess pieces taken off the board, bad guys eliminated before they kill good guys. They trained me to 'other' them and they trained me well."
Agent Sparrow
the age of slippers and migraines
YES! This is so completely it I don’t even think it’s an analogy.
Should someone message him to ask “you ok hon?”
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
They will fight it out west of London, and the battle may well be won on the playing fields of eton
Again, from the Mail.. hence the crucial detail of the make and model of his car. Theres more excellent stuff on the mail site this morning btw. including the 'older woman' (who was all of 23) who treated him like a stallion out the back of a pub for his first time
Prince Harry was permitted to leave his Apache helicopter base on 'urgent palace business' when it was put on lockdown for a spot drugs test, it has been claimed. RAF Wittisham in Suffolk was reportedly secured by armed guards in May 2011 before all cadets, junior and senior, were ordered to give urine samples. But the Duke of Sussex is said to have driven off in his Audi A3 to return to London, after having just come back from his brother Prince William's wedding.
Prince Harry was allowed to leave his RAF base when drugs testers turned up: Royal - who has admitted taking cocaine - raced back to London for 'urgent business' during unannounced inspection despite only just returning from William and Kate's wedding
Prince Harry was permitted to leave his Apache helicopter base on 'urgent palace business' when it was put on lockdown for a spot drugs test, it has been claimed. RAF Wittisham in Suffolk was reportedly secured by armed guards in May 2011 before all cadets, junior and senior, were ordered to give urine samples. But the Duke of Sussex is said to have driven off in his Audi A3 to return to London, after having just come back from his brother Prince William's wedding.
andysays
Love and solidarity
Who is the "everyone" in this post?
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Conspiracy to pervert the course of justice perhaps
Agent Sparrow
the age of slippers and migraines
I think the way Harry differs from a lot of the royal family is that we see more of “him”. We possibly always did with his various past incidents of acting out. It’s still obviously just a snippet of him as a whole person but he does come across as more human than the rest of them, whether that’s in areas we can empathise with or scorn or get cross about.
He seems untethered atm. From a human angle I hope he finds some peace at the end of this and doesn’t spend the rest of his life cringing at some of this public ranting.
I’m reading it all in the way one sometimes reads past urban bunfights - horrid fascination
He seems untethered atm. From a human angle I hope he finds some peace at the end of this and doesn’t spend the rest of his life cringing at some of this public ranting.
I’m reading it all in the way one sometimes reads past urban bunfights - horrid fascination
didn't netflix pay him 200 million quid or something? I think they'll most likely be alright tbh
Yossarian
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Forever excluded from living the dream of residing in Frogmore Cottage, welcoming second-tier dignitaries to the UK, and attending the opening ceremonies of regional flower shows, the prince was doomed to the daily grind of being an ordinary rich celebrity in Malibu.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Surely he could just buy some auld house and just rename it eg frogmore cottage, bromsgrove road, thames ditton
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
He's done this book because he was paid a fuckton of money to do it.
He comes across badly because he's a thick twat.
And yes, I'm laughing at him and all the rest of them. You would need a heart of stone not to.
But as always the last laugh is on us as even more millions get banked.
He comes across badly because he's a thick twat.
And yes, I'm laughing at him and all the rest of them. You would need a heart of stone not to.
But as always the last laugh is on us as even more millions get banked.
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