Prince Andrew, Duke of York, named in underage 'sex slave' lawsuit

[Saul Goodman]

Yes it's evidence. A lie can be evidence. What you mean, is "yeah but she could always be lying" which is what people always think when women say they've been raped. Thanks for spelling it out.

Sorry, I thought you said "solid evidence". I must have misread.
Oh, no, I didn't misread.

 

[8115]

Sorry, I thought you said "solid evidence". I must have misread.
Oh, no, I didn't misread.

I think it's solid evidence but then I believe women rarely lie about rape.

 

[Saul Goodman]

I think it's solid evidence but then I believe women rarely lie about rape.

Nice try, but playing to the crowd doesn't alter the fact.

 

[equationgirl]

I think it's solid evidence but then I believe women rarely lie about rape.

There's also the photograph showing that they'd met on at least one occasion, which demonstrates Prince Andrew has at the very least a sketchy memory of events.

 

[MickiQ]

No solid evidence? I'm not really following this properly but I was under the impression that there was at least one woman who stated she had slept with him when she was underage. Is this not pretty good evidence?

She said she was 17 at the time so even she isn't claiming she was underage, she is claiming she was trafficked by Jeffrey Epstein. She accuses He Who Cannot Sweat of knowing that fact whereas he claims he never even met her and barely knew Epstein. There is however the famous photo of him stood next to her with his arm around her and there is loads of evidence that he and Epstein were in fact good buddies.
The Giuffre case is pretty much dead, Whilst his magnificent interview convinced people that he's a bit of a creep who sleeps with girls the age of his daughters and a shit liar to boot;
There is no evidence (at least in the public domain) that he has done anything outright criminal.
The DoJ/FBI aren't interested in talking to him about Virginia Guiffre (that case has been dismissed in the US) but what he knows about Epstein and his trade in supplyng underage girls to the rich and powerful. It is of course possible that His Royal Nonceness doesn't actually know anything about that but his unwillingness to co-operate and answer questions is convincing no-one.

 

[MickiQ]

It's probably too late for him to say "I'm a sleazy entitled spoilt rich kid with blue blood who has had my fair share of totty crumpet over the years. All of it consensual from any number of young women who threw themselves at me. I never asked their ages and I could reasonably assume they were over18. The numbers probably are over 1000 and I couldn't be expected to remember every one of them. What Epstein and others did I was not privy to and they never shared anything with me other than sycophancy. I in hindsight deeply regret my actions and apologise if anybody was inadvertently hurt. I hope this draws a line under the affair and I, of course, remain willingly available to help any relevant authorities with their enquiries. Embassaremnt at the venality of my former life prevented me in being fully candid about my behaviour up till now. I hope this statement can go some way to start the healing for all concerned and allow everybody to move on. In light of this and without prejudice I have decided to make substantial payments to some of the complainants who in turn have asked for privacy at this difficult time. This is the last statement I will be making on this matter."

This^^
This is what he should have said if he had an ounce of sense in that thick privileged inbred skull of his. It is probably pretty much the truth as well but he is such an arrogant entitled prick that he seems to have believed that everyone else would swallow blindly the garbage that he came out with.
I'm a Prince don't you know appointed by divine right, we never lie and are above reproach. Wouldn't surprise me if he thinks the fairy tale of the princess and the pea actually happened.

 

[Spymaster]

No solid evidence? I'm not really following this properly but I was under the impression that there was at least one woman who stated she had slept with him when she was underage. Is this not pretty good evidence?

Saul's right, that's not evidence. It's an uncorroborated allegation which is strongly denied and which isn't being pursued by the US authorities.

There's also the photograph showing that they'd met on at least one occasion, which demonstrates Prince Andrew has at the very least a sketchy memory of events.

The photo (if real - Andy's lot say it's faked-) is only evidence that they met one time. Not that they had sex.

There is no criminal evidence against Randy Andy.

 

[Santino]

It is potentially testimonial evidence.

But really the question is, what sort of person intervenes in this conversation to make that specific point?

 

[Spymaster]

Those interested in the facts rather than rants perhaps. You silly twat.

 

[Spymaster]

.

 

[Santino]

Yeah, people 'ranting' about sexual abuse. That's the real problem.

 

[Santino]

The fact is that testimony can be evidence.

 

[Santino]

I'll wait while you google.

 

[Pickman's model]

The fact is that testimony can be evidence.

Indeed testimony is by definition evidence

 

[Pickman's model]

I'll wait while you google.

We'll be here half the morning

 

[Spymaster]

The fact is that testimony can be evidence.

It hasn't been raised as evidence. There's been no prosecution of Andrew so it's just something that she's said happened in the media. An allegation that he denies and that the authorities are not pursuing.

 

[Numbers]

We'll be here half the morning

We only have an hour left.

 

[Pickman's model]

We only have an hour left.

((((Spymaster))))

 

[TopCat]

The nonce defender.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

The photo (if real - Andy's lot say it's faked-) is only evidence that they met one time. Not that they had sex.

Point of order here. They no longer claim it is faked. They tried their damndest to find some evidence that it was faked and failed to do so.

 

[Spymaster]

The nonce defender.

Eh?

 

[Pickman's model]

Point of order here. They no longer claim it is faked. They tried their damndest to find some evidence that it was faked and failed to do so.

Points of order relate to conduct of a meeting, eg a request for a quorum count. What you're on about are points of information

 

[TopCat]

Eh?

Defending an obvious nonce like Andrew. It's not a good look, reminds me of people initially going on about Savile and charity work.

 

[Spymaster]

Defending an obvious nonce like Andrew. It's not a good look, reminds me of people initially going on about Savile and charity work.

Pointing out that he is not on trial is not defending him, you silly cunt.

 

[Sweet FA]

Pointing out that he is not on trial is not defending him, you silly cunt.

SOP though - I remember the thousands of words you wrote defending that rapist footballer.

 

[Pickman's model]

Pointing out that he is not on trial is not defending him, you silly cunt.

I'm glad you're not defending him, spy

 

[Sprocket.]

How many pallets of chlorinated chicken could we get for Andrew?

 

[Saul Goodman]

The nonce defender.

Good Lord TC, that isn't what's happening.

 

[Pickman's model]

How many pallets of chlorinated chicken could we get for Andrew?

Enough to crush him, I'll chuck in £50 to get you started

 

[Spymaster]

SOP though - I remember the thousands of words you wrote defending that rapist footballer.

No you don't because it didn't happen, although you and one or two others may have tried to spin it that way. What you remember are my posts regarding the admissability of the new evidence in the Ched Evans case.