Prince Andrew, Duke of York, named in underage 'sex slave' lawsuit

[Wilf]

War of the Worlds started tonight on BBC1 , Martians land in Woking I haven't seen anyone sweat yet , or have a hot pizza at Pizza Express.

'The chances of anyone bringing their kids from Windsor Estate are a million to one. But still they come'.

 

[Proper Tidy]

Though would you respect the judgement of someone called Dickie Arbiter?

I dunno you know, reckon he'd be fair and impartial. Like Fanny Ombudsman.

 

[Steel Icarus]

I dunno you know, reckon he'd be fair and impartial. Like Fanny Ombudsman.

 

[Wilf]

I dunno you know, reckon he'd be fair and impartial. Like Fanny Ombudsman.

 

[Wilf]

I dunno you know, reckon he'd be fair and impartial. Like Fanny Ombudsman.

I was very impressed that the Royals weren't troubled by fears of nominative determinism when they employed Alan Planecrash and his deputy Doris Oh-Fuck to oversee the PR on this one.

 

[D'wards]

Has anyone ever heard of an overdose of adrenaline?
Or said overdose knocking out your ability to sweat?
Is this a medically recognised thing?

 

[HoratioCuthbert]

Has anyone ever heard of an overdose of adrenaline?
Or said overdose knocking out your ability to sweat?
Is this a medically recognised thing?

The whole Andy-rhinhosis thing is but try as I might I can’t find references to this happening after “an overdose of Adrenaline”

 

[sheothebudworths]

I think there's some use in the interview style she used - not straying away from being respectful and reasonable, without any literal bowing, so with no leeway for any of it dismissed for that - but where for eg, she repeated twice that the woman had effectively said 'I know what happened and so do you'.
That is sometimes absolutely the final word for women who have been abused by men who deny it, so I liked that she said it once and then again and then left it floating.
I'm not sure how much more value there is, in pursuing truth from a liar, than doing that.

He knows and, after that interview, we all know he knows, too, the cunt.

 

[Marty1]

Has anyone ever heard of an overdose of adrenaline?
Or said overdose knocking out your ability to sweat?
Is this a medically recognised thing?

Only thing I’ve heard that stops sweating is botox.

 

[Wilf]

I think there's some use in the interview style she used - not straying away from being respectful and reasonable, without any literal bowing, and with no leeway for any of it dismissed as that - but where for eg, she repeated twice that the woman had effectively said 'I know what happened and so do you'.
That is sometimes absolutely the final word for women who have been abused by men who deny it, so I liked that she said it once and then again and then left it floating.
I'm not sure how much more value there is, in pursuing truth from a liar, than doing that.

He knows and, after that interview, we all know he knows, too, the cunt.

This all sounds good and maybe I was being a bit unreasonable expecting a Columbo moment. I suspect the beeb took the decision to just go with what was in the public domain and then go for incredulity in the face of his denials. I think they could have played it a lot dirtier, by trawling through what newspaper editors and others have on him, but maybe that would have reduced the impact of the things you highlight.

 

[killer b]

It is difficult to imagine an interview much more damaging than the one that we watched last night tbh. There was no need to go in hard or dirty: just asking him to account for the stuff that we already know and letting him talk was enough.

 

[kenny g]

I thought her interview style definitely did the job. The guy is fucked. What more can you ask? He does appear towards the end like he has just been smashed over the back of a head by a cricket bat.

 

[HoratioCuthbert]

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[A380]

 

[bluescreen]

By the way, has anyone seen anything either expressing sympathy for or actually believing him? Suspect a couple of MRAs or similar might have offered a few pearls of wisdom, but I'm not sure I want to go looking for them.

Well, apart from Sarah Ferguson's tweet, there's this:

Amanda Thirsk

Private secretary to Prince Andrew and director of his Pitch@Palace Global operation. It is understood that Thirsk clashed with Stein [HRH's press secretary, who resigned two weeks ago rather than let the interview go ahead] and pushed hard for Andrew to do the interview in the face of his initial scepticism, persuading him that it was the best way to draw a line under the rumours about the nature of his relationship with convicted paedophile Jeffrey Epstein. A former banker, she joined Andrew’s office in 2012. Described by one colleague as a “force of nature” who thinks “the Duke has done nothing wrong … All he did was go and see his friend.”

Who were the main players behind the Prince Andrew interview?

 

[sheothebudworths]

This all sounds good and maybe I was being a bit unreasonable expecting a Columbo moment. I suspect the beeb took the decision to just go with what was in the public domain and then go for incredulity in the face of his denials. I think they could have played it a lot dirtier, by trawling through what newspaper editors and others have on him, but maybe that would have reduced the impact of the things you highlight.

God, no, I don't doubt this - but it was pre-recorded, wasn't it?
So how do you balance getting it out, letting him dig his own grave - with considered questions that no fucker could object to - against having the whole thing pulled?
I'm still amazed it went out as it was.
I thought it was interesting that he talked about social media, too - are they all wringing their hands now 'fuck, we HAVE to talk!'?

I do not mean more questions shouldn't and/or couldn't have been asked (although, as has rightly been said, those should clearly be saved for a legal grilling anyway) - just within the fucking structures we have, I thought it was quite well judged (and tbc, I don't even mean that I'm sure they *wanted* it to go as badly as it already did).

 

[Marty1]

EM :‘Would you be willing to testify or give a statement under oath if you were asked?’

PA: ‘I would have to take all the legal advice that there was before I would do that type of thing’.

Plead the fifth?

No comment?

 

[binka]

Well, apart from Sarah Ferguson's tweet, there's this:
Who were the main players behind the Prince Andrew interview?

Draw a line under it!? There was no way on earth this interview could ever answer more questions than it raised.

How much is Amanda Thirsk being paid I wonder? I assume she has met Andrew and noticed how thick he is? And she must have known that he's never done a serious interview before? And she thought it was a good idea to get a reporter to ask him a series of questions about his convicted child abuser mate? And then broadcast it? There was no way this interview could ever not be a disaster for him

 

[Proper Tidy]

I'm no expert on interview techniques or whatever but he did the interview and the next day a) everybody is talking about it and b) everybody thinks he's a nonce. So I reckon it was probably quite a good effort from Maitliss

 

[gosub]

I was very impressed that the Royals weren't troubled by fears of nominative determinism when they employed Alan Planecrash and his deputy Doris Oh-Fuck to oversee the PR on this one.

still, probably won't get asked to do /\ again (which is a result all round)

 

[Mrs Miggins]

I'm just watching this. Oh my god he just comes across as a massive fucking liar!

Going for a walk in Central Park to tell someone that you can never been seen together again!?!?!

 

[Marty1]

I'm no expert on interview techniques or whatever but he did the interview and the next day a) everybody is talking about it and b) everybody thinks he's a nonce. So I reckon it was probably quite a good effort from Maitliss

Apart from public opinion going against him, he’s not going to be arrested and he’s still going to live the highly privileged life he leads.

What real consequence is he going to face apart from this passing discomfort of scrutiny?

 

[DexterTCN]

I'm just watching this. Oh my god he just comes across as a massive fucking liar!

Going for a walk in Central Park to tell someone that you can never been seen together again!?!?!

After staying with him for four days because it was convenient.

/typo edit

 

[Mrs Miggins]

"I don't know where the bar in Tramp is"
What a fucking prick.

 

[bluescreen]

The thread title ^^ is shocking every time. He has no idea whatsoever. He could have said 'I have never fucked anyone against their will. I have never fucked any 17 year old ever.' If it was true.

 

[Proper Tidy]

Apart from public opinion going against him, he’s not going to be arrested and he’s still going to live the highly privileged life he leads.

What real consequence is he going to face apart from this passing discomfort of scrutiny?

Well it was always unlikely any interviewer would force a confession that would lead to a criminal trial tbf

 

[farmerbarleymow]

I've just watched it - jesus. Maitliss handled it well I think. I don't know whether it is the colour balance on my monitor, but I'm sure he was becoming more flushed as the interview wore on too.

 

[Mrs Miggins]

It is notable that it's all "I can't remember"

 

[bluescreen]

It is notable that it's all "I can't remember"

Apart from the memorable visit to Pizza Express.

 

[farmerbarleymow]

It is notable that it's all "I can't remember"

But he could confirm that some things definitely didn't happen - that combination came across as odd.