Prince Andrew, Duke of York, named in underage 'sex slave' lawsuit

[kenny g]

Only saw the tail end of the interview.
He came across as thick as two short planks.

Like some 60s comedy sketch.

 

[UrbaneFox]

Jeffery Epstein was a convicted sex offender who groomed/trafficked/raped teenage girls and had them provide massages/sex to his rich old man friends.
Prince Andrew was one of Epstein's mates who stayed at his home/on his island/flew in his private plane.
One of the child victims claims Andrew was one of Epstein's rich old man friends that had sex with her and she has a photo of them together at Epstein's house.
Andrew claims it wasn't him, the photo's fake and he only hung out with his convicted paedo mate because he's an honourable chap and he definitely wasn't the sweaty creep who had sex with a child sex slave because he doesn't sweat and he was in Woking Pizza Express that night anyway.

He wasn't actually one of Epstein's friends. He was Ghilaine Maxwell's friend, and Epstein was her Plus One.

I think he should do another interview to clarify this point, thus clearing the good family name.

Might be as well to deny that he ever met Epstein, and was never ever interviewed by Emily Maitlis last week.

 

[Wilf]

Now then. He does that for us in his tireless role as roving business envoy. Nothing more honourable than to sacrifice oneself for one's country. And remember, he was shot at in the Falklands.

Honourable and Falklands, now can we just leave this now???

Yeah, he's at the Mother Teresa end of the spectrum when it comes to dining, clubbing and sex with 17 year olds.

 

[Wilf]

Afaik the honourable thing was he decided he must cut off contact with the paed, but rather than via a phone call, text message, What’s App, he decided the honourable thing to do would be to fly to New York and stay at the nonce’s house for nearly a week. That’s the best way to sever contact. With someone you’ve not seen in four years...

... bet there was an awkward silence when he announced that was it. At the dinner held by the nonce. In his honour.

 

[Wilf]

Interesting - Sitting in a cafe up Deeside and a little while ago, one of the fellow customers (local poshos) piped up that Prince Andrew had just registered on her Facebook as "nearby". How near do you have to be for this feature to work? The main road is just a few hundred yards away.

So it looks like he's been banished back to Balmoral - which he seems to have spent a lot of time this year.

Is there a local Pizza Express?

edit: curses, beaten by danny la rouge

 

[danny la rouge]

Is there a local Pizza Express?

See. I’m not saying you don’t read the thread. But ...

Prince Andrew, Duke of York, named in underage 'sex slave' lawsuit

 

[Wilf]

See. I’m not saying you don’t read the thread. But ...

Prince Andrew, Duke of York, named in underage 'sex slave' lawsuit

Thanks, I might give it a read and nick the best gags.

 

[HoratioCuthbert]

I can’t mind who said the interview- in terms of the questions- was poor, but to be honest I think Maitlis has done well as she’s let him basically hang himself and she doesn’t even need to say much, her face and tone says it all. I think if she’d conducted it any other way it might have played better for him, she’s just sat there and listened to him talk shite and given him looks of derision and the odd comment at all the appropriate times- he certainly can’t say he was given an unjustified roasting either. I’m not saying she’s a woman of the people like, just that it was incredibly well played. Couldn’t have been made to look more of a cunt than this surely. I hope as many people as possible watch it and see how much of a cunt he clearly is.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Thanks, I might give it a read and nick the best gags.

I am shamelessly nicking post traumatic sweat syndrome.

 

[UrbaneFox]

He kind of reminded me of all the times my children have lied to me and I've just gone along with it to see how much their imagination has grown.

I liked "I don't even know where the bar in Tramp is".

Watertight defence.

 

[Steel Icarus]

It's an extraordinary interview.

 

[Wilf]

I can’t mind who said the interview- in terms of the questions- was poor, but to be honest I think Maitlis has done well as she’s let him basically hang himself and she doesn’t even need to say much, her face and tone says it all. I think if she’d conducted it any other way it might have played better for him, she’s just sat there and listened to him talk shite and given him looks of derision and the odd comment at all the appropriate times- he certainly can’t say he was given an unjustified roasting either. I’m not saying she’s a woman of the people like, just that it was incredibly well played. Couldn’t have been made to looak more of a cunt than this surely. I hope as many people as possible watch it and see how much of a cunt he clearly is.

My initial reaction was that she and the bbc bottled it, which is probably unfair. As you say, she did a good job of showing contempt and letting him hang himself. It leaves him much more isolated and the generic sense that he's a shit has been ramped up considerably (and to something worse). What I did think was a missed opportunity was to bring some research to the interview beyond the things already in the public domain. I'd like to have seen something that gave Giuffre more ammunition against him, which would have involved a more barristery/tabloidy approach. Are there rumours that he's done this before? Did his 'randy andy' lifestyle involve him having women 'provided' at the social occasions he attended? Did he have sex with anyone when he stayed with the nonce? Why the fuck was he having massages? Why did his wife take epstein's money etc.

 

[HoratioCuthbert]

My initial reaction was that she and the bbc bottled it, which is probably unfair. As you say, she did a good job of showing contempt and letting him hang himself. It leaves him much more isolated and the generic sense that he's a shit has been ramped up considerably (and to something worse). What I did think was a missed opportunity was to bring some research to the interview beyond the things already in the public domain. I'd like to have seen something that gave Giuffre more ammunition against him, which would have involved a more barristery/tabloidy approach. Are there rumours that he's done this before? Did his 'randy andy' lifestyle involve him having women 'provided' at the social occasions he attended? Did he have sex with anyone when he stayed with the nonce? Why the fuck was he having massages? Why did his wife take epstein's money etc.

Fair point...
The impression I got(and it was an approach I really liked to be honest) was that she was trying to amplify this one victims voice- repeating several times what she had said, by asking if he has a message directly for her, by asking “are you saying she is lying”
Which is very different to a barrister style approach I guess, but maybe an approach we need to see more often given the low conviction rate for this sort of thing? But yeah, i get your point

 

[Marty1]

From the comments section of BBC Newsnight’s YT channel.

He does not regret his friendship with a paedophile.

Says it all really.

 

[steveo87]

Six things we learned from Prince Andrew interview

I can think of one....

 

[Brainaddict]

Just watched some of this. Dear god. Whoever advised him not to do a tv interview had it right. Any reasonable person who had any doubts about him being a paedo has had their doubts well and truly removed.

It's true that Maitliss could have asked some more aggressive questions, but there was always the chance the right wing press could then have claimed he was 'ambushed' by a biased BBC etc. So she did a fairly low risk interview, but certainly played it well for the most part. There were a few things she could have safely pursued and asked followups on (like him saying he didn't regret being friends with Epstein because it was useful - wtaf), but I think she knew he was already hung by his own words.

 

[Wilf]

Fair point...
The impression I got(and it was an approach I really liked to be honest) was that she was trying to amplify this one victims voice- repeating several times what she had said, by asking if he has a message directly for her, by asking “are you saying she is lying”
Which is very different to a barrister style approach I guess, but maybe an approach we need to see more often given the low conviction rate for this sort of thing? But yeah, i get your point

Yeah, I agree and I went over the top in my criticism of her/the beeb last night. I'd just like to have seen her throw a couple of curve balls. He and his team could predict every single one of those questions (which makes it so astonishing that his answers were so godawful!). Perhaps the most eloquent thing she could have done was just walk out on him at the end, whereas I've just read he took her and the crew on a tour of the palace (Mirror I think).

 

[Miss-Shelf]

Jeffery Epstein was a convicted sex offender who groomed/trafficked/raped teenage girls and had them provide massages/sex to his rich old man friends.
Prince Andrew was one of Epstein's mates who stayed at his home/on his island/flew in his private plane.
One of the child victims claims Andrew was one of Epstein's rich old man friends that had sex with her and she has a photo of them together at Epstein's house.
Andrew claims it wasn't him, the photo's fake and he only hung out with his convicted paedo mate because he's an honourable chap and he definitely wasn't the sweaty creep who had sex with a child sex slave because he doesn't sweat and he was in Woking Pizza Express that night anyway.

Thank you
You could make some money doing news updates for lazy people

 

[HoratioCuthbert]

Yeah, I agree and I went over the top in my criticism of her/the beeb last night. I'd just like to have seen her throw a couple of curve balls. He and his team could predict every single one of those questions (which makes it so astonishing that his answers were so godawful!). Perhaps the most eloquent thing she could have done was just walk out on him at the end, whereas I've just read he took her and the crew on a tour of the palace (Mirror I think).

Nah if it was your post I read- I thought it was someone else’s haha- you didn’t go over the top at all...oh yeah I can imagine he did that. Whilst I think she was obvs disgusted by the whole thing she’d have defo gone along with everything else in politeness, I mean that’s the system isn’t it. Everyone’s a cunt even if they aren’t.

 

[DexterTCN]

Yeah, I agree and I went over the top in my criticism of her/the beeb last night. I'd just like to have seen her throw a couple of curve balls. He and his team could predict every single one of those questions (which makes it so astonishing that his answers were so godawful!)...

His PR man resigned when andy decided to do the interview.

 

[Marty1]

His answers to the photo of him with his arm around the 17yr old was bizarre, he wouldn’t say if he thought it was a fake but he thought his hand had been added, he’d never been upstairs in that house (where that photo was taken) and yes that’s him in the photo but he has no recollection of him being there or who that girl was

 

[Wilf]

There are reports that windsor himself asked for the 15 grand for his ex wife from epstein (mirror again). That would have been a good one to ask him alongside all the invites to palace parties - all under the heading of how close epstein was to his extended family... or even how he 'drew a paedophile into the heart of the british royal family'.

Again, not really having a go at Maitliss. She got the tone right, a sort of combined royal formality with incredulous contempt. Perhaps I'm just fantasising about what a barrister could do to him in court.

 

[bluescreen]

Is it common knowledge that the infamous alleged photograph was taken upstairs? First I heard was Andrew's denial that he'd ever been upstairs at that house.

 

[Wilf]

By the way, has anyone seen anything either expressing sympathy for or actually believing him? Suspect a couple of MRAs or similar might have offered a few pearls of wisdom, but I'm not sure I want to go looking for them.

edit: and echoing sheothebudworths you've got to be so impressed by Giuffre, given the shit that will have been flung at her, the threats and the rest.

 

[belboid]

Is it common knowledge that the infamous alleged photograph was taken upstairs? First I heard was Andrew's denial that he'd ever been upstairs at that house.

There are clearly stairs going down just behind them.

 

[marty21]

War of the Worlds started tonight on BBC1 , Martians land in Woking I haven't seen anyone sweat yet , or have a hot pizza at Pizza Express.

 

[bluescreen]

There are clearly stairs going down just behind them.

Thanks. I have only seen a cut down version then. (And they wouldn't be basement steps.)

 

[HoratioCuthbert]

Is it common knowledge that the infamous alleged photograph was taken upstairs? First I heard was Andrew's denial that he'd ever been upstairs at that house.

Probably not. It’s clear from that interview the royal team thought we’d be stupid enough to swallow anything.

 

[Wilf]

Probably not. It’s clear from that interview the royal team thought we’d be stupid enough to swallow anything.

Though would you respect the judgement of someone called Dickie Arbiter?

 

[Marty1]

I’m surprised Maitlis didn’t press PA on the other photos and video showing him waving off young women from the front door of Epstein’s NY mansion.