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Prince Andrew, Duke of York, named in underage 'sex slave' lawsuit

Wilf said:
What I don't understand is why Anne isn't higher up the succession list (she's 16 and the beast is 8). Isn't she older than Paedipus Rex?
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My 83 yr old mum (who seems to know an inordinate amount about the royals 🤔) said to me that Prince Philip allegedly used to say he wished Ann had been a boy and born before Charles as she would have made a great monarch.

Dunno how accurate that is...but...mum surprised me with her knowledge of the firm. Mind you....she also surprises me regularly with her knowledge of republicanism and the IRA.... 😀
 
Aladdin said:
My 83 yr old mum (who seems to know an inordinate amount about the royals 🤔) said to me that Prince Philip allegedly used to say he wished Ann had been a boy and born before Charles as she would have made a great monarch.

Dunno how accurate that is...but...mum surprised me with her knowledge of the firm. Mind you....she also surprises me regularly with her knowledge of republicanism and the IRA.... 😀
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I’ve heard that before and don’t know how true it is. But from watching The Crown I can say that her character comes across as more capable at more or less everything.
 
Barring any future court cases, I hope this is the last we have to see or hear of Andrew. It's already been too much - obviously he has to be at the funeral itself, but there was no need for him to be marching around the streets.

That at least one person has already been arrested and charged, having first been assaulted, because of Andrew flaunting himself and his untouchability, is an insult. If he had any decency, he'd insist they let the guy off.

Still, if anyone else needs to serve him with legal papers and not get the stonewalling and general dishonest game of hide and seek that Virginia Guiffre got for months on end, they know exactly where he'll be on Monday.

A family friend of ours was in a US correctional facility while her mother was dying - she was given the choice of one chaperoned afternoon home visit with her mother before death or going to the funeral - but not both.
 
belboid said:
He could, but he is not obliged to.

Peston is wrong, in that Chuck hasn’t actively appointed anyone (& there is no such post as ‘deputy king’). The five under consideration for a regency are determined by act of parliament (Regency Act 1937). Saying you want to step back or being a paedophile makes no difference. And camilla is first in line.

The current members of the royal family eligible to serve as Counsellors of State are:

HM Queen Camilla, The Queen Consort
1. HRH The Prince of Wales
2. HRH The Duke of Sussex
3. The Duke of York
4. HRH The Princess Beatrice, Mrs. Edoardo Mapelli Mozzi
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Puddy_Tat said:
i'm no expert on this sort of thing, but not sure there's any recent (as in the last few hundred years) precedent of anyone declining to become monarch, or renouncing their place in the line of succession.

edward 8 was king for nearly a year - he didn't get as far as a coronation ceremony, but was still king, and he then abdicated, so they made up the 'duke of windsor' title for him.
i'm sure that the establishment could come up with something (or re-create the duke of windsor title?) if someone near enough to the throne to be seriously likely to get it really didn't want to - or could that person still get out of it by converting to being a roman catholic? (or marrying a catholic?)

if it's all subject to an act of parliament, then a new act could get shoved through if there was an emergency - presume the 1937 act was because elizabeth and margaret were very young when their dad got the job, and presume they rigged it so edward wouldn't have got to be regent if anything had happened to king george...
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belboid said:
Not sure about the whys & wherefores of the 1937 Act, but a bit further googling (ie looking at the wiki page) says the current order of precedence is due to the 1953 Act. And there had been another inbetween. So it is all subject to Act of Parliament and there has been a new one for each new monarch for a century. So the current government could legislate to remove the paedo.

Although Other Liz would probably put herself into his place.
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spring-peeper said:
I fixed your list for you :)

Harry is not longer a Royal Highness.
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Cid said:
The newer acts mostly tidy up odd discrepancies and attempt to bring the monarchy into the modern world (e.g 2013 ends male primogeniture). Notable in the 1953 act is that it brings the Queen Mother in as a counsellor of state, so there is precedent for varying the cos, albeit by act of parliament. The second point is that, far as I can tell, the cos isn't actually compulsory (it may be appointed by letters patent). How that would play out in the real world I don't really know, but it's there. The final point is that it's fairly clear (from 1953) that there are methods for removal from the cos (Queen mother must have displaced someone after all), and that that request can come from the sovereign. Would it be awkward? yeah... But Charles absolutely has a hand in his brother's position.
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Great stuff guys!

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Bahnhof Strasse said:
Nice. My grandfather served in the Royal Navy for 11 years, was sunk twice in WW2 and risked his life to save this country. And that rapey nonce gets to dress up and pretend that he represents my fucking grandpa? Cunt.
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Used there not be something about "bringing disgrace to a uniform"?

The royals have no real dignity...if they think its ok to allow that scumbag wear that uniform.
 
Aladdin said:
Used there not be something about "bringing disgrace to a uniform"?

The royals have no real dignity...if they think its ok to allow that scumbag wear that uniform.
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Well it is the case that all sorts of heinous things are perpetrated in uniforms so I don't think it really matters tbh. Maybe its even quite fitting.
 
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