Prince Andrew, Duke of York, named in underage 'sex slave' lawsuit

[Wilf]

At the age of 41, he allegedly went for a trafficked 17 YO. Hence whereby the label of noncery is being applied, not to indicate interest in prepubesent girls but rather in the general usage for sexual assaulters.

Any thoughts, Kenny g?

 

[DaveCinzano]

As shittily misogynistic and patriarchal as our culture is, I'm pretty sure we have so far avoided instituting a rape offset credit scheme.

 

[kenny g]

Any thoughts, Kenny g?

A few. On the current information he doesn't come across as a paedo.

 

[bluescreen]

A few. On the current information he doesn't come across as a paedo.

What are your thoughts on him coming across as an entitled aristo exploiting trafficked girls?

 

[kenny g]

What are your thoughts on him coming across as an entitled aristo exploiting trafficked girls?

Probably fits that category.

 

[Calamity1971]

What are your thoughts on him coming across as an entitled aristo exploiting trafficked girls?

Not sure I want anymore thoughts from kenny g tbh.

 

[keybored]

The fact that at the age of 21 he went for a 24 year old somewhat detracts from the allegations of noncery.

And people often seem to forget that Harold Shipman didn't murder a lot more people than he did murder.

 

[eatmorecheese]

And people often seem to forget that Harold Shipman didn't murder a lot more people than he did murder.

Exactly. Think of how many constituents Cyril Smith helped in his career and he didn't touch their kids.

 

[TopCat]

The fact that at the age of 21 he went for a 24 year old somewhat detracts from the allegations of noncery.

it fucking doesn't

 

[Spymaster]

The fact that at the age of 21 he went for a 24 year old somewhat detracts from the allegations of noncery.

It doesn't really.

There's a misunderstanding of "nonce". Many people consider a nonce to be a child molester, but that's not the case. I'm happy to be corrected ( tonysingh ) but I believe that the term "nonce" is prison slang for sex criminals generally.

A man who uses his status or power to seduce young women who wouldn't otherwise fuck him, is (almost?) as much of a sex criminal as a street rapist.

Nonce.

If the cap fits ....

 

[tonysingh]

It doesn't really.

There's a misunderstanding of "nonce". Many people consider a nonce to be a child molester, but that's not the case. I'm happy to be corrected ( tonysingh ) but I believe that the term "nonce" is prison slang for sex criminals generally.

A man who uses his status or power to seduce young women who wouldn't otherwise fuck him, is (almost?) as much of a sex criminal as a street rapist.

Nonce.

If the cap fits ....

Nonce would be specifically child sex offences. Others would be a beast etc.

Eta, I've never heard nonce or its root used for anything other than a paedophile or suspect thereof

 

[a_chap]

Eta, I've never heard nonce or its root used for anything other than a paedophile or suspect thereof

Rather unfortunately, I have to work with nonces occasionally

Cryptographic nonce - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

I really wished they'd found another term for it

 

[Spymaster]

Nonce would be specifically child sex offences. Others would be a beast etc.

Eta, I've never heard nonce or its root used for anything other than a paedophile or suspect thereof

Cheers.

Every day's a school day, but isn't it the case that rapists of adults might also find themselves on "the nonce wing"?

 

[tonysingh]

Cheers.

Every day's a school day, but isn't it the case that rapists of adults might also find themselves on "the nonce wing"?

Oh rapists will end on the nonce wing for sure but even then it's largely called other names like the VP wing, the cucumbers etc. Cucumbers because rhyming slang for numbers which refers to the prison rule number 43 that separates sex offenders, baby killers, granny bashers, grasses, pad thieves etc from us decent violent criminals.

 

[Wilf]

A few. On the current information he doesn't come across as a paedo.

I'm really just wondering why you want to get into this?

 

[Spymaster]

Oh rapists will end on the nonce wing for sure but even then it's largely called other names like the VP wing, ...

VP?

 

[tonysingh]

VP?

Vulnerable Prisoner

 

[Dom Traynor]

VP?

Voracious Prince

 

[iona]

Visibly Perspiring

 

[not-bono-ever]

i thought nonce was originally foisted as an anti gay thing from yore - might be wrong here tho

 

[bluescreen]

Probably fits that category.

Jesus.

Let's argue about what type of exploitation was going on with rich men and poor girls from from troubled backgrounds, why not, because definitions are so much more important than the wrongs the definitions are attempting to grasp.

 

[tonysingh]

i thought nonce was originally foisted as an anti gay thing from yore - might be wrong here tho

Nonce = bacon bonce = nonsense crime i.e a crime that makes no sense to the usual prisoner. Bacon is also a term for a child sex offender. Bonce is a ye olde tyme word for head.

 

[two sheds]

nonsense crime i.e a crime that makes no sense to the usual prisoner.

what I heard from a mate who'd been inside, too.

I asked him how you were with other prisoners if you were inside for dealing spliff. "Popular"

 

[tonysingh]

what I heard from a mate who'd been inside, too.

Here's hoping he (or she tbf) is doing better now.

 

[Puddy_Tat]

i thought nonce was originally foisted as an anti gay thing from yore - might be wrong here tho

never heard / read of it in that context, other than sex offenders against (male) children.

although until certain points in the UK, any gay sex activity was a sex crime, or gay sex activity with anyone under 21 was.

chambers dictionary says 'ety uncertain'

 

[two sheds]

Here's hoping he (or she tbf) is doing better now.

Not seen him for a while but yep was taxi driving when I last met him and seemed happy enough.

 

[Raheem]

Think "nonce" might be based, originally, on "ponce", originally meaning pimp. Possibly also combined with the idea of nonsense, or with the original meaning of "nonce", which was a "one-off" (a specific incident, as opposed to the ongoing behaviour of a pimp).

 

[spitfire]

That's the same at the beginning and different at the end. It's an anti-rhyme.

The body of evidence grows.

 

[miktheword]

always thought nonce was 'Not On Normal Courtyard Exercise' or NON Criminal Element /Enterprise

indicating vulnerable prisoners and yeah, bacon being the slang as said above.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

Nonce would be specifically child sex offences. Others would be a beast etc.

Eta, I've never heard nonce or its root used for anything other than a paedophile or suspect thereof

The best explanation I've had is that it's an acronym for folk who go on the numbers (the special wing for their own protection from the rest of the estate). Which is usually rape or child abuse cases.
Not On Normal Courtyard Exercise. NONCE.