Urban75 Home About Offline BrixtonBuzz Contact

Prince Andrew, Duke of York, named in underage 'sex slave' lawsuit

Only boring people are bored.

From teenage years upwards I have rarely been bored because I either get to do things that actually interest me, or I can distract myself by subverting authority, heckling etc, even if its just done silently inside my mind. But those possibilities hadnt really occurred to me during my time in the cubs, well maybe a little bit towards the end.

The only really exciting thing that happened in cubs was when playing indoor football someone managed to hit a fluorescent tube in a manner that caused it to fall from a great height and smash dramatically. And even then I think it was the dramatic reaction from the adults that made it more interesting, we had to freeze where we were until they were happy that the many fragments of doom had been dealt with.

That and random vomiting from some poor unfortunate child. Its a wonder some of them didnt earn a badge for it.
 
My thoughts are with the victims, and my attempts to use this case to bring down the monarchy and super rich are by no means intended to belittle their struggle, but rather to amplify it.

Prince Andrew had been disgraced and the people have already reached their own guilty verdict - the evidence is out there.

What's the worst dirt that we've got on Prince Charles and Prince William?
 
My thoughts are with the victims, and my attempts to use this case to bring down the monarchy and super rich are by no means intended to belittle their struggle, but rather to amplify it.

Prince Andrew had been disgraced and the people have already reached their own guilty verdict - the evidence is out there.

What's the worst dirt that we've got on Prince Charles and Prince William?

Well I dont usually miss the chance to bring up Williams public comments early in the pandemic.

"Does it seem quite dramatic about coronavirus at the moment? Is it being a little bit hyped up do you think in the media?" he asked.

He went on to joke: "By the way, the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge are spreading coronavirus, Sorry. We’re keeping an eye on that, so do tell us if we need to stop."

And to add salt to the wounds, Prince William himself later revealed that he had in fact caught Covid-19 shortly afterwards.

He didn't tell the public at the time because the Royal Family didn't want to "alarm the nation," particularly after both Prince Charles and Prime Minister Boris Johnson were fighting the disease at the time.

 
I can't remember any flag raising crap. We had the church parades at Easter and around xmas but that was about it. Otherwise it was just camping and games. I loved it. Same with air cadets. We went flying, shooting, did the DofE schemes, and got to hang out on operational air bases. It was fantastic fun. I'd do it again now if I could.

There was this weird flag raising thing. I can’t remember if it was just when there was a new initiation or at every meet but I remember it enough to feel it was the latter. Erect the frame, pull up the flag, form a circle and chant the Cub Scout promise. That I did this voluntarily is lost on me.
 
Might HWCS be asked about his own sexual history, post divorce from Fergie?

Why hasn't he wheeled out details of a long-term relationship with someone / I'm not into one night stands / even "We divorced but always stayed together' stuff.
Yep like "Can you explain why in the British media a satirical comedy programme, watched by millions of people every week, portrayed you as a character named Randy Andy?"

I wonder what other skeletons may surface as we get closer to boiling point too.
 
Were you even allowed to join? If not you weren't allowed to leave!
I have no idea. I know that I went along for a couple of weeks and then I didn't cos I didn't want to. I was only a little kid.

Do they give you a test?

Looking them up, it appears they no longer demand any kind of attitude towards a god, but they do still expect you to promise to 'do your duty to the Queen'. Fuck that for a game of soldiers.
 
I have no idea. I know that I went along for a couple of weeks and then I didn't cos I didn't want to. I was only a little kid.

Do they give you a test?

Looking them up, it appears they no longer demand any kind of attitude towards a god, but they do still expect you to promise to 'do your duty to the Queen'. Fuck that for a game of soldiers.
It is a sort of game of soldiers.
 
Yep like "Can you explain why in the British media a satirical comedy programme, watched by millions of people every week, portrayed you as a character named Randy Andy?"

I wonder what other skeletons may surface as we get closer to boiling point too.
It wasn’t just Spitting Image.

There has to be a better copy of this out there somewhere:

 
Looking them up, it appears they no longer demand any kind of attitude towards a god, but they do still expect you to promise to 'do your duty to the Queen'. Fuck that for a game of soldiers.

That's all nonsense mumbo-jumbo though, isn't it?

I promised to "do my duty to god, and to the queen" but they were just words I said as a kid so I could go camping with my mates, and were forgotten 10 minutes later.

I can't imagine things have changed much 40 years on.

(OK; more than 40 years :p)
 
There was this weird flag raising thing. I can’t remember if it was just when there was a new initiation or at every meet but I remember it enough to feel it was the latter. Erect the frame, pull up the flag, form a circle and chant the Cub Scout promise. That I did this voluntarily is lost on me.

The "Sundown Ceremony" perhaps? Knocked from the early RAF. I think it goes back to the days before night flying, to mark the official end of flight operations for the day and the time when every pilot who was coming back alive had to have their wheels on the ground by.
 
Last edited:
The "Sundown Ceremony" perhaps? Knocked from the early RAF. I think it goes back to the days before night flying, to mark the official end of flight operations for the day and the time when every pilot who was coming back alive had to have their wheels on the ground by.
It was part and parcel of it. Plenty of evidence on youtube although I guess not all packs were the same.

 
Yep like "Can you explain why in the British media a satirical comedy programme, watched by millions of people every week, portrayed you as a character named Randy Andy?"

I wonder what other skeletons may surface as we get closer to boiling point too.

Back in the early 80s, Andy was frequently in the tabloids seen out in the smarter end of London's clubland, often enjoying himself with some abandon and always a pretty young lady of "good family" or a rising young actress (eg Koo Stark) on his arm. His siblings however were staid by comparison - The knickname "Randy Andy" was quickly appended!
 
Back in the early 80s, Andy was frequently in the tabloids seen out in the smarter end of London's clubland, often enjoying himself with some abandon and always a pretty young lady of "good family" or a rising young actress (eg Koo Stark) on his arm. His siblings however were staid by comparison - The knickname "Randy Andy" was quickly appended!
I'd forgotten about Koo Stark.

Prince Andrew’s ex-girlfriend Koo Stark told by Royal Family she was on IRA hitlist during relationship
 

Yup - back then, if he was seen with the same woman more than a couple of times, the tabloids were talking wedding plans but overall he got it pretty easy and IIRC played-up to the image. The press played along too, in a "young modern Prince and war hero, enjoying the fruits of his victory" sort of way. There was no competition either. Charles was just Charles - a bit odd and Edward was seen as bookish and more into am-dram instead of a few drams and maybe (in a whisper) gay. It was a very long time before they turned on him and long after they went for Sarah Ferguson.
 
this talk of religious exclusion in uk scouting sounds weird to my american ears, even 50+years ago there was a program for each and every in the BSA.
here's what you can get now:

 
Weird, my mum ran the cubs in our village for a while as the well-known only Catholic, that would have been seventies at a guess.
Yeah this was early Eighties. I think it was an individual troop thing, I remember my mum asking me if I wanted to find another troop instead and I was over it by that point.
 
Back
Top Bottom