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Just enjoyin' my coffee.
My youngest lad went to cubs. They were very nice and they didn't bother with all that flag, god and the queen shite. He went to woodies later and liked that as well.
Prince Andrew, Duke of York, named in underage 'sex slave' lawsuit
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There's probably a millennial version now. Back in the day though...
Also my Akela ended up in prison for raping his daughter. So the nonce thing rings true, if only locally.
1927
Funnier than he thinks he is.
On the basis of one guilty person you are aware of!!!
Oh and Baden Powell.On the basis of one guilty person you are aware of!!!
1927
Funnier than he thinks he is.
Really? Even if true its still only 2 cases, bit harsh to smear an entire organisation on that basis.Oh and Baden Powell.
Oh go on then Mister Apologist.
More than 250 convicted of child sexual abuse in UK and Ireland while in Scout movement
Exclusive: Analysis raises questions about the organisation’s safeguarding procedures
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
255 convictions since the 1950s.
More than 250 convicted of child sexual abuse in UK and Ireland while in Scout movement
As an organisation, it failed miserably to safeguard children against paedophiles, much like the Catholic Church, really.
It's horrible that good people get smeared because of this, but paedophiles actively seek out positions of responsibility with children, whether it is in the scouts, care homes, sports clubs or church groups. And for a long time, many organisations did little to stop it. It doesn't help anyone to try to downplay that.
1927
Funnier than he thinks he is.
Thats not the point i was making.
After the Prince Andrew scandal, it's time to slim down the monarchy | Simon Jenkins
Royal offspring are accidents waiting to happen. Far better to cut down the throne to an heir and a spare, says Guardian columnist Simon Jenkins
I find this Guardian article odd.
"The throne needs only an heir and a spare. The rest of the family should become commoners and lead normal lives. Perhaps inadvertently, that process started this week."
But Charles is the heir and Andrew colloquially "the spare", as the eldest and second eldest male children of the current monarch. Slimming down the institution like Jenkins says wouldn't have avoided this mess. He'd still have been out there trading on the royal name, not living as a commoner.
Puddy_Tat
naturally fluffy
not since william came along, he isn't next in line (although, while william was still a child, he - or anne or edward - could have been needed as prince regent if something nasty had happened to both her madge and big ears)
TopCat
Putin fanboy
Virginia Giuffre seeks testimony from Prince Andrew’s former assistant
Attorneys say they have ‘reason to believe’ that Robert Olney has ‘relevant information’ about duke’s relationship with Epstein
Humberto
Relax
I mean he is just going to be the beast in perpetual hiding. Utterly embarrasing that this is the head of states' her majesticalness's offspring. At our expense, and, if you give a fuck, makes the country look a bit shit. Which rather takes the shine off the bootlicking and scraping.
well fuck this is more complicated than I paid attention to
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
Zenouska Mowatt.
andrew is 9th in line now. this has the list of succession down to number 63 whoever the hell they are.
ElizabethofYork
Old Crone
Being "the spare" is an odd position. You start out being well and truly in the spotlight and being treated as important and relevant, and over the years you fade further and further into the background- still at the public expense.
ska invita
back on the other side
the question to ask is what is that as a percentage of scouting staff and how does it differ from the general population? how is it different from schools for example?Oh go on then Mister Apologist.
More than 250 convicted of child sexual abuse in UK and Ireland while in Scout movement
Exclusive: Analysis raises questions about the organisation’s safeguarding procedureswww.theguardian.com
i can think of three teachers i encountered who tried it on with children - one even eloped with a 16 year old
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
It reminds me of the twin brothers, one stored the other's number under 'spare parts'.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
That shows a good spirit
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
Absolutely, and it’s unsurprising that the scout movement may be over represented with nonces given the age of the kids, the extremely target rich nature of scout troops, and the fact that they’ll be spending extended periods away from home. It’s prime fiddler territory. If I had a kid in scouts or any similar group, I’d be keeping a very keen eye on what’s going on.
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
Just wrote another big long rant which would probably have come across badly, then saw this post and decided against it.
We all post daft things without thinking about them much, few of us bother to apologise for them. Fair play.
AnnO'Neemus
Is so vanilla
Then there's a possibility I might have met him! Small world.My Uncle Terry worked at Fiddlers Ferry for years.
Bless you
seeformiles
Lost in the wood
I was a cub and a scout and it was great. There was no noncery, they didn’t lay the religion or monarchism on too thickly. I think we had to attend the church our hall was attached to about twice a year as recompense for using it but it was a light touch. I loved the fire lighting, bushcraft and tracking bits plus appearing in the Gang Show was brilliant*. Activities organised were not dependent on income and camping in the summer was the only holiday some boys in our troop ever got.
The book “Scouting For Boys” has parts that are very much of its time but also much that wasn’t. BP doesn’t come across as a white supremacist (as many of his contemporaries were) and instead lauds the outdoor survival skills of African Bushmen, Native Americans, practitioners of martial arts, etc. while always emphasising that all Scouts around the world are brothers and equals. I quite liked that bit about it. The Boys’ Brigade were much more militaristic and seemed to want to emulate the Crimean War - all those bugles, formation marching and Sam Browne belts.
(* In the Gang Show I sang Jonathan King’s “Una Paloma Blanca” but that was as close to noncery as it got
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SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
My Uncle Terry worked at Fiddlers Ferry for years.
This sounds like the opening line of an Ian Dury song.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
The Boy's Brigade has always given me the creeps for having more than a passing resemblance to the Hitler Youth.
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