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Prince Andrew, Duke of York, named in underage 'sex slave' lawsuit

It’s incredible what any of them have achieved, really, given all they’ve had to overcome.
Prince William graciously acknowledged his optician's near insistence that he wear spectacles, and went on to qualify as a helicopter pilot.

If the other would-be applicants showed that same strength of character, instead of blindly - no eye joke intended! - accepting the rule that short-sighted persons were not allowed to train as pilots, this country might be in a damned better state than it is today. :mad:
 
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He's being allowed to keep his naval rank of Vice-Admiral, to keep him in line with his peers in the Navy. But he wouldn't have got past Lieutenant if he'd been a civilian. That's if he'd not been rejected at the interview.

I wonder how many of the royal helicopter pilots would have got the job if they'd been civilians? Charles, Andrew, Harry and William apparently all good enough to get one of the most competitive jobs in the world.
If they keep stripping away all the perks, gifts and houses he gets, he'll end up kipping in his car. Oh, hang on...
 
Ok well fuck off with that then. Try living in a society where nobody does voluntary youth work. Better still try actually doing voluntary youth work and getting called a nonce as a reward.
This is why I won't get involved in this area.

Certainly the huge scale of rape and abuse in the scouts towards children was subject to continued cover ups for decades. There remains a stink to the organisation.
Yes there was a lot, yes there was a lot of cover up, but by far the largest number of leaders were decent people trying to do something to help. It's unfair, and inaccurate to suggest otherwise
 
Don't forget 'the promise'

On my honour, I promise that I will do my best
to uphold our Scout values, to do my duty to The Queen,
to help other people
and to keep the Scout Law.

I can see why many people would take issue with that, I certainly would, but those issues fall some way short of the whole organisation being a cesspool of child abuse. For a lot of kids it'll be a couple of precious evenings a week away from abusive or neglectful families.
 
Try living in a society where nobody does voluntary youth work. Better still try actually doing voluntary youth work and getting called a nonce as a reward.


Bang on there Frank.

I'm sure this been done to death on a number of threads over the years actually but once again I will hold my hand up and announce that I am proud to say that I was a scout. No-one bum-fingered me, I learned how to kayak, sail, whittle, Map-read, tie a woggle and I did bob a job for old people on our estate. That in turn lead me to join the youth club where I went rock climbing, learned how to develop film and ended up pursuing a career with those skills which got me to where I am today. School on the other hand left no lasting impact on my direction in life.

My lad was also a cub and the people who volunteered to run his pack were wonderful people who just wanted to see kids have a good laugh and provided some real positive role models in his life. Then he got to meet Bear Grills and Steve Backshall. He's much more independent as a result of going away on camp and fecking off on every trip that they had going and they took him to do all sorts of stuff you wouldn't traditionally associate with scouting.

It's a shame that these folk are still having to shake off the stink that other folk left.

Having an altruistic tendency to want to better the lives of society's youth is a perfectly normal human trait which sadly some people are put off participating in because of flippant noncery suggestions from some of their peers.

Bit sad really.
 
Yeah, I mean lets not pretend its otherwise. It was Baden-Powell's original mission to prepare boys to be in the army. I was in the cubs and scouts and got a lot out of it but it is what it is.


I fell out with the Akela after around 8 weeks. Well I fell out with her on the first evening tbf, but after 8 weeks I binned it off. Miserable fucker that she was.
 
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