Prince Andrew, Duke of York, named in underage 'sex slave' lawsuit

[Teaboy]

I left the cubs because they wouldn't give me my skipping badge

I know I've complained about this before but it left a mark

Yes we know, everyone knows. You use it as mitigation every single time you're up before the beak.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Yeah, I mean lets not pretend its otherwise. It was Baden-Powell's original mission to prepare boys to be in the army. I was in the cubs and scouts and got a lot out of it but it is what it is.

Baden-Powell has been dead for some time, you realise.

 

[TopCat]

Bang on there Frank.

I'm sure this been done to death on a number of threads over the years actually but once again I will hold my hand up and announce that I am proud to say that I was a scout. No-one bum-fingered me, I learned how to kayak, sail, whittle, Map-read, tie a woggle and I did bob a job for old people on our estate. That in turn lead me to join the youth club where I went rock climbing, learned how to develop film and ended up pursuing a career with those skills which got me to where I am today. School on the other hand left no lasting impact on my direction in life.

My lad was also a cub and the people who volunteered to run his pack were wonderful people who just wanted to see kids have a good laugh and provided some real positive role models in his life. Then he got to meet Bear Grills and Steve Backshall. He's much more independent as a result of going away on camp and fecking off on every trip that they had going and they took him to do all sorts of stuff you wouldn't traditionally associate with scouting.

It's a shame that these folk are still having to shake off the stink that other folk left.

Having an altruistic tendency to want to better the lives of society's youth is a perfectly normal human trait which sadly some people are put off participating in because of flippant noncery suggestions from some of their peers.

Bit sad really.

I was a scout too and got all that. But many many scouts were raped and it was shown that peado's flocked towards the scouts and were allowed to get away with it since the beginning.

 

[TopCat]

Prince Andrew faces calls to pay for his own security

Growing clamour for royal to lose dukedom and taxpayer-funded Scotland Yard security detail

www.theguardian.com

 

[two sheds]

I'm surprised Brenda didn't tell him that he should give up all the things she took off him before she took them off him. Or perhaps she did and he refused.

He'd have been a lot better off a while ago saying "I'm retiring from public life and responsibilities until the court case is over". But I suppose he'd then lose things like taxpayer-funded security details.

 

[dessiato]

I was a scout too and got all that. But many many scouts were raped and it was shown that peado's flocked towards the scouts and were allowed to get away with it since the beginning.

My mother was a guide captain and used to take me along. It was great fun. I was about 5/6, possibly 7, and the girls used to fuss over me and spoil me. I loved being a Girl Guide (honorary)

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

Bang on there Frank.

I'm sure this been done to death on a number of threads over the years actually but once again I will hold my hand up and announce that I am proud to say that I was a scout. No-one bum-fingered me, I learned how to kayak, sail, whittle, Map-read, tie a woggle and I did bob a job for old people on our estate. That in turn lead me to join the youth club where I went rock climbing, learned how to develop film and ended up pursuing a career with those skills which got me to where I am today. School on the other hand left no lasting impact on my direction in life.

My lad was also a cub and the people who volunteered to run his pack were wonderful people who just wanted to see kids have a good laugh and provided some real positive role models in his life. Then he got to meet Bear Grills and Steve Backshall. He's much more independent as a result of going away on camp and fecking off on every trip that they had going and they took him to do all sorts of stuff you wouldn't traditionally associate with scouting.

It's a shame that these folk are still having to shake off the stink that other folk left.

Having an altruistic tendency to want to better the lives of society's youth is a perfectly normal human trait which sadly some people are put off participating in because of flippant noncery suggestions from some of their peers.

Bit sad really.

All of this. I was a Cub, Scout, Venture Scout and then a group leader* for a few years.

Scouting was, and is, brilliant for kids.


*whilst being an atheist republican… I taught the kids that “god” represented whatever your personal moral code happened to be, and that your duty to “the queen” represented your local community and that of the wider world around you.

 

[petee]

i had a blast in the scouts, and no adult ever so much as looked wrongly at us. the patriotic stuff was always observed but was pro-forma and there was no militarism. see, i came out of it a libcommie.

i'm happy that others had something like the same experience.

 

[Pickman's model]

I'm surprised Brenda didn't tell him that he should give up all the things she took off him before she took them off him. Or perhaps she did and he refused.

He'd have been a lot better off a while ago saying "I'm retiring from public life and responsibilities until the court case is over". But I suppose he'd then lose things like taxpayer-funded security details.

He'd have been a lot better off if he wasn't an international nonce

 

[two sheds]

That's a very good point.

 

[1927]

Don't forget 'the promise'

On my honour, I promise that I will do my best
to uphold our Scout values, to do my duty to The Queen,
to help other people
and to keep the Scout Law.

In my day it was,

I promise that I will do my best,
To do my duty to GOD and to the Queen...

 

[friedaweed]

I've told this tale before but both my kids pledged to do their duty to 'Bod' and to 'Queen' (the band) that's basically what Brown Owl and Arkela told the kids to say if they, unlike them, didn't believe in the beardy white fellow in the clouds.

 

[Kevbad the Bad]

I wanted desperately to join the Cubs, cos my best friend was in it. My local Cubs insisted on regular attendance at church. When I discovered that my mind was made up. No Cubs. A decision I have never regretted.

 

[Pickman's model]

I wanted desperately to join the Cubs, cos my best friend was in it. My local Cubs insisted on regular attendance at church. When I discovered that my mind was made up. No Cubs. A decision I have never regretted.

Don't think I ever went to church while in the cubs

 

[Kevbad the Bad]

Don't think I ever went to church while in the cubs

Afterwards?

 

[AnnaKarpik]

If his mum had been anyone else, I'd have pitied her, she might not have thought the allegations were believable. As it is, she's known forever, cos secret service, what her boy has been up to and supported him nonetheless, right up to the point where he has to admit guilt and settle or go to court. If just one thing has changed as a result of this story, it has to be the perceived integrity of the dear old queen.

 

[Serge Forward]

 

[SpookyFrank]

Where Andrew is now, I'm struggling to think of anyone who has been such a national pariah/laughing stock in my lifetime.

 

[Orang Utan]

I got chucked out of the Cubs for professing my atheism and for telling Akela that I was never going to salute a stupid flag again - i must have had an early republican epiphany or summat. Soon joined up with Woodcraft Folk instead.

 

[SpookyFrank]

If his mum had been anyone else, I'd have pitied her, she might not have thought the allegations were believable. As it is, she's known forever, cos secret service, what her boy has been up to and supported him nonetheless, right up to the point where he has to admit guilt and settle or go to court. If just one thing has changed as a result of this story, it has to be the perceived integrity of the dear old queen.

I'm glad she's still here to see it. Maybe she'll have a chance to reflect on whether she should've inculcated her offspring with a tiny shred of decency. Sixty years of stoic resolve and loyal service and she gets to leave behind a family and an institution in ruins.

 

[TopCat]

Where Andrew is now, I'm struggling to think of anyone who has been such a national pariah/laughing stock in my lifetime.

Please, start a thread all of it's own. It could be fab and would roll on.

 

[weltweit]

Where Andrew is now, I'm struggling to think of anyone who has been such a national pariah/laughing stock in my lifetime.

Johnson, at the same time, loads to ridicule wherever you look ..

 

[AnnO'Neemus]

A redundant power station.

chandlerp Weirdly, I visited Fiddler's Ferry power station on a 'school trip' when I was studying engineering at uni.

They had a big fish tank in the control room and told us that when they had school trips from school kids, they used to tell the kids that the fish in the tank performed a similar function to canaries in coal mines, ie they could tell if electricity was leaking.

 

[AnnO'Neemus]

Sarah Ferguson: will ex-wife continue to ‘remain steadfast’ for Prince Andrew’?

Duchess of York appears to be one of few people Andrew can still turn to for unconditional support

www.theguardian.com

I'm wondering if they'll re-marry so she can't be called to testify against him.

 

[friedaweed]

chandlerp Weirdly, I visited Fiddler's Ferry power station on a 'school trip' when I was studying engineering at uni.

They had a big fish tank in the control room and told us that when they had school trips from school kids, they used to tell the kids that the fish in the tank performed a similar function to canaries in coal mines, ie they could tell if electricity was leaking.

Did you double bubble your visit and explore Widnes's other main attraction, The Catalyst Museum ?

 

[Glitter]

chandlerp Weirdly, I visited Fiddler's Ferry power station on a 'school trip' when I was studying engineering at uni.

They had a big fish tank in the control room and told us that when they had school trips from school kids, they used to tell the kids that the fish in the tank performed a similar function to canaries in coal mines, ie they could tell if electricity was leaking.

My Uncle Terry worked at Fiddlers Ferry for years.

 

[SpookyFrank]

I'm wondering if they'll re-marry so she can't be called to testify against him.

The guest list for that one will be on the short side I reckon. Maybe Maxwell could be a witness via video link.

And maybe she could also attend the wedding.

 

[AnnO'Neemus]

Did you do double bubble your visit and explore Widnes's other main attraction, The Catalyst Museum ?

Nope, never heard of it.

 

[Pickman's model]

Afterwards?

No

 

[Magnus McGinty]

I can see why many people would take issue with that, I certainly would, but those issues fall some way short of the whole organisation being a cesspool of child abuse. For a lot of kids it'll be a couple of precious evenings a week away from abusive or neglectful families.

I think there's lots about the scouts that are good. Especially nowadays where kids just stare at screens for joy. It's a shame that it comes with a particular kind of indoctrination. It didn't work on me but it's there doing it's job.